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The Oral Traditions of the Pharisees were used to write the Jewish Talmud. WARNING: THIS TOPIC DOES TRIGGER SHILLS.

PREFACE: The vast majority of Jews are great people. They have been misled by their religious leaders. I invite all those who consider themselves Jews to take part in this bread and discover the twisted history of how the Pharisees subverted the religion of Moses. In all fairness, the same forces that hijacked and subverted the religion of Moses have also done the same with Islam and Christianity. We are dealing with a global Cabal (kabbalah) that's dead set on destruction to those deemed unworthy.

To my Jewish frens, I will make you this offer. If you don't refer to my criticism of Judaism as antisemitic, then I will not refer to the followers of Judaism as AntiChrist… which is technically, exactly what it is.

The more one studies the historical context and geo-political-socio habbenings of Jesus' time on this earth, the more they discover the accuracy of Jesus' statements. One of Jesus' many criticisms of the Pharisees is that they have hijacked and subverted the Israelite religion of Moses and replaced the written law of Moses (Torah or Tanakh) with the oral traditions of men (Talmud).

In rabbinical studies, the Talmud carries more weight than the books of Moses and is the authoritative religious texts of the religion.

Within these writings, are various perverse opinions by rabbis, such as one can have sex with a girl if she is 3 years of age. Instead of having these rabbis dragged out back and shot in the head, they took their perverse opinions and memorialized them in the Holy Talmud.

One must ask themselves, why do the most Christians have no idea that the spirit of the Pharisees, the ones who ordered Christ to be killed, are emanated in modern day Judaism? The answer to that is quite clear… (((They))) don't want us connecting those basic dots.

Which is why you will see this bread being shilled by lecturefags, misrepresenting scripturefags, Jewish apologistsfags, bickerfags, on Trump's watchfag, porn and gorefagging and damn near every other type of shilling you find elsewhere.

One of the common tactics of the Pharisees was to take Old Testament scripture out of context and twist it to fit their perverse views. You will see some shills doing the same thing here.

The Jewish apologists will claim that the writings of the Talmud are merely opinions that were debated by rabbis. If that is the case, one must ask themself, who lends credence to such perversive opinions by memorializing them in their holy books? Also, when you dig a little deeper into the beliefs of the high ranking members of the Jewish communities, you will find the more perverse opinions being echoed and perpetuated by those most respected in the religion.

We will also discuss the Jewish Kabbalah in this bread because it's rooted in satanic black magic that came from the same Babylonian Pharisees that implemented their oral traditions (Talmud) into the religion of Moses. Jesus also warned us about those who practice "magic" and commanded us not to do so ourselves. Jesus told us magic is fake, gay and childish and when one becomes an adult, they should set aside the the childish things of their past.

Nonetheless, we will follow Jesus' lead and criticize the jews, without hating them.


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VERSES FROM JEWISH TALMUD

1. Sanhedrin 59a: “Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.”

2. Abodah Zara 26b: “Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed.”

3. Sanhedrin 59a: “A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death.”

4. Libbre David 37: “To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all

Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.”

5. Libbre David 37: “If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false

explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death.”

6. Yebhamoth 11b: “Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age.”

7. Schabouth Hag. 6d: “Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.”

8. Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Do not save Goyim in danger of death.”

9. Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Show no mercy to the Goyim.”

10. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: “If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be

found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth.”

11. Choschen Hamm 266,1: “A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost

property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy,

however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the

Jews and look upon them as honorable people.”

12. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: “A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books

contain anything against them.”

13. Baba Necia 114, 6: “The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts.”

14. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: “When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves.”

15. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: “Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by

beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.”

16. Aboda Sarah 37a: “A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated.”

17. Gad. Shas. 2:2: “A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl.”

18. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: “If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT

responsible.”

19. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: “It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to

kill him even before he denounces.”

20. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: “All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which,

consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples.”

21. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: “How to interpret the word ‘robbery.’ A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women

slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy.”

22. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: “God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations.”

23. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: “When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same

Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile,

according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it.”

24. Nedarim 23b: “He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the

year and declare, ‘Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null’. His vows are then invalid.”


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>>5093317

For any shills claiming that these verses do not exist - They are blatantly lying. In fact, there have been many countries that put the Talmud on trial, exposing the atrocious verses and demonic perverse thoughts of the rabbis. Often ultimately ended in a full on banning of the book.

Please research the Disputation of Paris in 1240, also known as the trial of the Talmud. The church was represented by a highly respected former rabbi, Nicholas Donin, who had converted to Chrisitanity and knew the contents of the Talmud.

Most of the trial focused on allegations regarding Talmudic teachings on Jesus and Mary (although other topics were discussed). When Donin asked the rabbis present if the Talmud, in fact, taught Jesus Christ was burning in a cauldron of excrement in Gehenna, one rabbi responded, "there were many men named Jesus who claimed to be the messiah. Is every Louis in France king?" I believe they call that, "Chutzpah."

The rabbis eventually went silent and refused to answer Donins allegations. The Talmud was deemed heretical and thousands of copies were burned. In the years following the trial, tens of thousands of jews converted to Christianity.

This was not the only time the Talmud was put on trial, but it is the most easily researched.


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SOME NEW TESTAMENT VERSES PERTAININT TO THE JEWS

Part 1

Please review the verses yourself but I've offered a quick description next to the corresponding verses.

Titus 1:10-11 - The Jews are unruly, vein and deceptive - and their mouths must be stopped because they subvert entire houses, teaching filthy things.

Matthew 3:7 - Jesus calls the jews from the generation of vipers.

Matthew 9:34 - The Jews claim Jesus cast out devils by the using devil (of course we know that claim is illogical)

Matthew 12:2 - Jews accuse Jesus of doing unlawful acts on the sabbath

Matthew 12:4 - Jews got together to conceive a plan of how they might destroy Jesus

Matthew 12:24 - Jews again accuse Jesus of being from the devil

Matthew 15:3-12 - Jesus tells the Jews their traditions of men transgresses against the God of Moses. Jesus proclaims the Jews have made the commandment of God null and void because of their oral traditions (Talmud) - the Jews were offended by this.

Matthew 16:1 - The Jews tempted Jesus

Matthew 16:6 - Jesus warns the people about the corruption of the Jews.

Matthew 16:11-12 - He specifies that his leaven parable refers to the doctrine of the Jews

Matthew 19:3 - The Jews further tempt Jesus with loaded questions.

Matthew 21:31-46 - Jesus tells the Jews that the drunks and whores will be in the Kingdom of God before they will. Jesus then explains the parable of the owner of a vinyard, whos lent his property out to husbandmen, but when the property owner sent his servants, the husbandmen beat them, over and over. So the owner sent his son and they killed him to steal his inheritance… and Jesus asks the Jews, what do u think the Owner will do to the husbandmen when he returns? The Jews knew Jesus was talking about them being false shepherds and turning their backs to God. They were butt hurt but they knew if they laid hands upon him, the multitude would revolt because they saw Jesus as a prophet.

Matthew 22:15 - The Jews, again, conspired on how they could entangle Jesus in his talk.

Matthew 23:13-15 - Jesus says the Jews are hypocrites and will receive the greater damnation because they lead people away from heaven, mistreat humanity, and exploit religion… and Jesus says the Jews go to far extents to make more Jews, which are ultimately twice the child of hell as the original Jew.

Matthew 23:23 - Jesus calls the Jews hypocrites because they adhere to the oral traditions of men (talmud) and do not adhere to the original Moses commandments (Old Testament).

Matthew 23:25 - Jesus calls the Jews hypocrites for outwardly appearing Holy but internally they are of the devil.

Matthew 23:27 - Jesus calls the Jews hypocrites and compares them to a gravesite - where the memorial stone and site appear lovely but under the surface, is decaying dead man’s bones.

Matthew 23:29 - Jesus calls the Jews hypocrites again…. (seeing a pattern??)

Mark 3:6 - The Jews conspired to destroy Jesus

Luke 11:42-44 - Warns the Jews that they are hypocrites and use the guise of Holy to hide their devilish and disgusting acts.

Luke 12:1 - Jesus warns his disciples and multitude to beware of the hypocrisy of the Jews.

Luke 13:31 - Jews tell Jesus to leave or he will be killed.

John 11:57 - The chief priests and the Jews put out a bounty on Jesus and told the people to turn him in.

John 12:42 - Many people believed in Jesus but due to fear of the Jews - they did not confess it.

John 18:3 - Judas, with the chief priest and Jews, went to arrest Jesus (it was not the romans).


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PART 2

NEW TESTAMENT VERSES RELATED TO JEWS AND THEIR RELIGIOUS LEADERS, THE PHARISEES

Mark 7:3 - Jews not holding Moses’ traditions but their own

John 5:10

John 5:15-18 - Jews wanted to kill Jesus for healing the sick on sabbath

John 6:41 - murmuring jews

John 7:13 - No man can speak openly about Jesus due to fear of the Jews

John 8:48-52 - Jews accuse Jesus of being possessed by devil

John 9: 18-22 - The Jews harass the parents of a blind child who was healed by Jesus.

John 9: 28-34 - Jews hating on Jesus’ abilities as a miracle worker because he’s not a rabbifag.

John 10:31 - Jews take up stones to try and kill Jesus

John 11:8 - Disciples warn Jesus to stay away from Jews because they want him dead.

John 11:53-57 - Jews take counsel together to put Jesus to death and put a bounty out for info re his whereabouts

John 18:12 - Jewish officers (not Romans) took and bound Jesus

John 19:7 - The Jews tell Pilate Jesus must be killed according to their Jewish laws

John 19:12-16 - Pilate sought to let Jesus go but Jews cried out reeeeee and further proclaimed their laws justify killing Jesus - so Pilate releases Jesus unto the Jews so they can crucify him

Acts 9:23 Jews take counsel to kill one of Christ’s disciples

Acts 12:1-3 - Herod beheads James and since it pleased the Jews, Herod proceeded to take Peter also

Acts 13:45-50 - Jews were envious of the multitudes deciding to follow Christ - Paul tells the Jews they are unworthy of everlasting life because they have turned their back on the truth. So the Jews social engineered an artificial outrage and expelled Paul from their coasts.

Acts 14:2 - The unbelieving Jews stirred up the gentile to create divide and make their minds evil against their brethren.

Acts 14:19 -

Acts 17:5 - The envious Jews stirred up the people again to go against the church.

Acts 17:13 - The Jews found Paul preaching the Gospel elsewhere and went there and stirred up the people against him again

Acts 18:12 - The Jews brought Paul to the judgement seat

Acts 20:3 - The Jews laid wait in Macedonia to catch Paul and kill him

Acts 23:12 - Jews made a pledge that they would neither eat nor drink until they had killed Paul

Acts 24:5 - The Jews accuse Paul as being a mover of sedition to all the Jews across the world and say he is the ring leader of Christianity and ought to be killed

Acts 25:7 - The Jews from Jerusalem came and made many false accusations towards Paul - which they could not prove

Acts 26:7 Paul states to the King that he is only being accused of crimes by the Jews

Acts 26:21 Paul testifies that the Jews have been trying to kill him

Acts 28:17 Paul testifies that the Jews had arrested him and handed him to the Roman authorities

Acts 4:8-21 - The Jews forbid Peter and John to speak in the name of Jesus and forbid the people from discussing it

Acts 7:41 - Steven tells the Jews that they have taken up the tabernacle of Moloch and worship the star of Rempham (David)

Acts 7:51-59 Steven calls the jews stiff necked, blind and deaf, and btfo them for killing the prophets… so the jews shilled and when that didnt work, they stoned him to death.

Acts 11:12 - The Jews opposed Peter


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HOW TO SPOT A SHILL IN THIS BREAD

Is the post made by a mossad faggot?

Is the post totally avoiding any genuine discussion of the Pharisees' Jewish Talmud?

Is the post quoting much scripture incorrectly and using it to bickerfag/lecturefag others?

Is the post retarded?

Does the post glow?

Is the post claiming that we are sinning because we are willing to discuss the subversive ways of the (((Pharisees)))?

Does the post include the term "antisemite"? (If anyone criticizing judaism is an antisemite than anyone criticizing Christianity would then be an antichrist… which is every jew in the world)

Is the post sliding away from the topic at hand?

PLEASE REMEMBER - IT IS COMMANDED TO THE JEWS TO NOT DISCUSS THE CONTENTS OF THE TALMUD HONESTLY WITH A NON-JEW AND WHEN THEY ARE PRESSED TO DISCUSS IT, THEY ARE TOLD TO LIE AND SUBVERT THE TRUTH


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This background of the Pharisees from Josephus sets the stage for a proper understanding of the role that the Pharisees played in their plot to ultimately destroy Jesus who posed a threat to their authority. To grasp Pharisaic history, one must not study Phariseeism in isolation from its historical roots and the strong political power this group yielded during the time of John Hyrcanus, the ministry of Jesus, and the academy established in Jamnia following the fall of Jerusalem in 70 CE. Jesus questioned their authority and this act got Him into trouble with the religious leaders.

As stated above the religion of the Pharisees is the religion of “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago” (Matthew 5:21). Jesus, in the Sermon on the Mount, dealt with the oral Torah of the Pharisees. This now-famous Sermon set the stage for the controversies that followed Jesus throughout His ministry. Davies aptly stresses the meaning of “You have heard” in his analysis of three passages in Matthew (12:1-14; 15:1-20; 19:1-19).[11] In the first citation (12:1-14), Jesus discusses the Pharisees’ oral traditions about the Sabbath; in the second reference (15:1-20), Jesus again addresses the oral Torah of the Pharisees concerning the laws of purity; and in the third quotation (19:1-19), He addresses their traditions concerning divorce.

Jesus, in the conclusion of the Sermon on the Mount, warned His disciples about false prophets (7:15). Prior to this admonition, Jesus went right to the heart of oral traditions. (TALMUD)


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Moar on how the fake Jews hijacked and subverted the religion of Moses with their oral traditions, which they felt were more important than the written law God commanded to Moses.

The Pharisees were in revolt against God’s written law; that is, the oral law was on par with the written law. The Jewish leaders carried out this rebellion in the name of God’s law. This melting together of the two laws caused Jesus to issue a scathing rebuke against the teachers of the law and the Pharisees. Matthew succinctly captures one such confrontation between Jesus and the Pharisees:

Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.’ You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.’ You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. And he who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything unclean (Matthew 23:15-27).


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Martin Luther is the reason half of Americans are Christians but are not part of the Catholic Church. Look at his views of the Jews - They’re in line with what Jesus told us.

Ask yourself why Protestants arent discussing this in their churches?


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>>5093367

Moar from Luther’s book.


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>>5093373

Moar from Martin Luther


1d0af4 () No. 5093390

Another great source is Christian author Michael Hoffman II. He wrote Judaism Discovered, which is banned on amazon, and also wrote Judaism’s Strange Gods… which i will post some excerpts of.


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>>5093395

Moar from Hoffman. Its a great book. You can read entire thing here -

https://www.scribd.com/document/392911608/Michael-Hoffman-Judaisms-Strange-Gods

Please read.


abcfef () No. 5093685

The New Testament repeats its charge of Jewish guilt in about 40 different passages. Nothing could be clearer than that long before the crucifixion the pharisaic leaders were wanting to kill Jesus and maneuvering toward that end. Fairly soon in Jesus ministry we are told the Pharisees “planned together to kill Him” (John 11:47-53, John 18:14). Their goal was to have Him “delivered to the chief priest and condemned to death” (Mark 10:33, Matt. 20:18-19, Luke 18:31-33). “And they plotted together to seize Jesus by stealth and to kill him” (Matt. 26:4, Luke 22:2, John 7:1).

This was “to obtain false testimony against Jesus in order that they might put him to death” (Matt. 26:59). Because their intention was obvious, Jesus asked them, “Why do you seek to kill me?” (John 7:19). It was obvious also to the people, who asked, “Is not this the man they are seeking to kill?” (John 7:25). Accordingly, the “chief priests and elders took counsel against Jesus to put him to death” and “delivered him to Pilate” (Matt. 27:1-2, Mark 15:1, Luke 23:1).

At this point we encounter first mention of a Roman in this conspiracy. Yet Pilate confirms that the animus and energy toward Christ’s murder is coming entirely from Jewish leaders. “Pilate knew that because of envy they had delivered him up” (Matt. 27:18, Mark 15:10). “The chief priests and scribes were seeking how they might put him to death” (Matt. 26:15, Mark 14:10-11, Luke 22:2-6) and were “seeking to destroy him” (Mark 11:18, Luke 19:47).

As a result, Pilate, himself a manipulator, asked them, “What are you willing to give to me to deliver him up to you?” The “chief priests and elders persuaded the multitudes to ask for Barabbas and put Jesus to death” (Matt. 27:20, Mark 15:11, Luke 23:18, John 18:40). “…And they shouted, ‘crucify him!’ and ‘he ought to die’” (Matt. 27:22-23, Mark 15:13-14, Luke 23:21-23, John 19:6-7). Pilate, it says, “delivered Jesus to their will” (Matt. 27:26, Mark 15:15, Luke 23:24-25).

After Pilate agreed to the demand of the leaders and people that Christ be killed, the Jews acknowledged their responsibility. “His blood be upon us and upon our children” (Matt. 27:25). Jesus confirmed to Pilate that the sin of the Jewish leaders was greater than that of Pilate in buckling to Jewish pressure. Jesus said, “For this reason he who delivered me up to you has the greater sin” (John19:11). Jesus was affirming “how the chief priests and rulers delivered him up to the sentence of death and crucified Him” (Luke 24:20).

This brings us to testimony by the apostles in the Book of Acts that the Jews killed Christ. In Peter’s speech to the Jewish multitude at Pentecost, he lays blame upon them for the death of Jesus whom “ye have taken and by wicked hands have crucified and slain” (Acts 2:23). Jesus, “whom ye have crucified” (Acts 2:36). Again, in Acts 3:14-15 he tells the Jews, “but ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you and killed the Prince of Life.” Peter tells the high priest and rulers that they are guilty for the spilling of the blood “of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified” (Acts 4:40).

Later, he again tells the Pharisees, “The God of our fathers raised up Jesus whom ye slew and hanged on a tree” (Acts 5:30). Just before being stoned to death by the Jews, Stephen told them they have been Christ’s “betrayers and murderers” (Acts 7:52). A converted Jew, Paul, testified of his pharisaic brethren that, “though they found no cause of death in him yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain” (Acts 13:28) and that the Jews “have both killed the Lord Jesus and their own prophets” (1 Thess. 2:14-16).


ab4510 () No. 5093697

moar anti-Jewfag spam thread, and stiffling-elimination of alt. Biblefag bread term that doesn't include anti-Semitism spam.

Free speech board? lol Unfortunate mental captivity more like it:

>>5088136

Scriptures observe the internals of man as the source of all issues.

Looking at the outside is a relatively worthless look.

John 8:15

Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.

Christianity, the Word, presents that other internal adverse agents that are not the person, are in play in man's internal thought processes. That's why Jesus "judged no man." There is another agenct set internally, to judge:

Mark 4:15

And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Thoughts control the persons.

Believers are led to align their thoughts with the Word, and generally reject those thoughts that don't align.

Heb. 4:

12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

2 Cor. 10:

Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

Jesus tells us that our ultimate fate resides in our own thoughts and actions, and that we can and do control ourselves, or not.

Blaming others will do no good.

The outside has always been a hobgoblin of good and evil, mixed and spread across the board, to all people.

And in some places obviously worse than others.

In today's world we're fortunate just to be able to express ourselves, as the powerful align to control ALL THOUGHTS.

2 Corinthians 6:

15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

It's not the Jews or the Muslims or the roman catholics or the Russians or the Chinese or any number of other external forces that would concern a believer.

The wrestling we (all) engage in, is in fact internal, and always has been, a personal wrestling match, between us and our own internal evil thoughts.

Romans 7:21

I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

It is inside, that we divide, and separate, and have our Divine Communion with Christ.

Evil is no man, but an internal agency that is not man. The man controlled by the flesh can not see or discern this, because they have been blinded by that internal force, and they instead blame and accuse others when the accuser is in fact within their own heart.

There is a reason to blame and accuse every person, but the root cause is not the person. The flesh man does not see this internal reality, and can not, because he is not in control, nor does he see what is going on inside is not just of himself.

Titus 3:2

To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

We are called to divide. That division is internal. But as much as we divide, the match is always on, in the flesh, for everyone.


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The Gospel of Thomas Audio

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what if Jesus had a twin brother?

would you trust the supposed words of the twin of Jesus or would you side with the church fathers who chose to not tell you about this book?

the purpose of this thread is to build upon the existing lie and to divert from the real excavation of truth.

FIRE!

SWORD!

AND WALL!

LET THERE BE LIGHT!


87e589 () No. 5093847

previous bread links b/c OP is obviously a heathen faggot b/c hirz didn't include them j/k much love no homo or at least no sodomy and fuck (((them)))

Biblefags vs Unleavened Bread #7: The Jews are the Pharisees Pt 2 https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4878404.html

Archive https://archive.fo/MSBbx


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>>5093685

bingo. great post.


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>>5093847

shit! I keep forgetting to link to last bread - im such a fag - The biblefag threads are filling so quick, I ought to start a rolling notables section at the top of the thread.

thx again for posting that.

Much love! Yes hetero.


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>>5093697

Try harder


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>>5096749

>>5093697

what? are the facts stated in this thread offensive to you?


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>>5096802

Largely rampant hypocrisy.

But you should not mistake the counters to be in your favor. It's actually meant to infect you even moreso:

Mark 4:15

And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Enjoy the show!


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>>5096831

The Babylonian Pharisees that used their oral traditions (Talmud) and the childish black magic kabbala to hijack and subvert the religion of Moses aren’t the same as the israelites being referred to in those scriptures… but u know already know that and thats why ur here shilling. The religion referred to as “judaism” today couldnt be further from the original religion of Moses.

I love how u shills use scripture out of context - its exactly what the Pharisees do to the Tanakh, so they can excuse their perversive ways.

I’m gonna need you to try a bit harder mossad.

>>5096932

hypocrisy? If I were adhering to the following verses from the Jewish Talmud, and then criticizing Jews for doing the same - that would be hypocrisy. Go look up the definition in ur fucking wagnall fagbag.

VERSES FROM JEWISH TALMUD

1. Sanhedrin 59a: “Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.”

2. Abodah Zara 26b: “Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed.”

3. Sanhedrin 59a: “A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death.”

4. Libbre David 37: “To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all

Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.”

5. Libbre David 37: “If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false

explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death.”

6. Yebhamoth 11b: “Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age.”

7. Schabouth Hag. 6d: “Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.”

8. Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Do not save Goyim in danger of death.”

9. Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Show no mercy to the Goyim.”

10. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: “If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be

found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth.”

11. Choschen Hamm 266,1: “A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost

property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy,

however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the

Jews and look upon them as honorable people.”

12. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: “A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books

contain anything against them.”

13. Baba Necia 114, 6: “The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts.”

14. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: “When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves.”

15. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: “Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by

beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.”

16. Aboda Sarah 37a: “A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated.”

17. Gad. Shas. 2:2: “A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl.”

18. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: “If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT

responsible.”

19. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: “It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to

kill him even before he denounces.”

20. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: “All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which,

consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples.”

21. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: “How to interpret the word ‘robbery.’ A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women

slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy.”

22. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: “God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations.”

23. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: “When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same

Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile,

according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it.”

24. Nedarim 23b: “He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the

year and declare, ‘Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null’. His vows are then invalid.”


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3afe85 () No. 5105161

On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. https://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/fbi-seeking-to-covertly-create-national-dna-database-that-turns-everyone-into-a-suspect-and-you-help-create-it-if-you-use-dna-analysis-services/


3afe85 () No. 5105246

On child-killing, serial adulterer Trump's watch. Trust God's plan.

The wickedness of Sodom ([Ex 20:14] heterosexual [Lev. 20:10–12] or homosexual [Lev. 20:10,13]) was notorious (Gen. 13:13).

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/02/man-accused-of-murdering-pregnant-girlfriend-has-charges-related-to-killing-the-fetus-dropped-thanks-to-nys-new-abortion-law/


1d0af4 () No. 5105326

>>5096731

>>5096831

>>5105161

>>5105246

>3afe85

^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS IS A SHILL

Look at this faggot’s posts and u will see the same mossad faggot thats bashing Trump is also the same one using the antisemite dog whistle.


3afe85 () No. 5105548

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus (Ga 3:28).


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3afe85 () No. 5105639

>>5105326

>THIS IS A SHILL

>Look at this faggot’s posts and u will see the same mossad faggot thats bashing Trump is also the same one using the antisemite dog whistle.

You’re projecting again (Eph 4:14).

But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie (Re 22:15).


3afe85 () No. 5105783

>>5105020

God loves and God hates: Esau I have hated. Mal 1:3

God hates all workers of iniquity…The Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. Ps 5:5-6

The wicked and the one who loves violence, God hates. Ps 11:5

The face of the Lord is against those who do evil. Ps 34:16

God loves righteousness and hates wickedness. Ps 45:7

These six things the LORD hates,

Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:

A proud look,

A lying tongue,

Hands that shed innocent blood,

A heart that devises wicked plans,

Feet that are swift in running to evil,

A false witness who speaks lies,

And one who sows discord among brethren. Pr 6:16–19

For as [a man] thinketh in his heart, so is he. Pr 23:7

All their wickedness is in Gilgal,

For there I hated them.

Because of the evil of their deeds

I will drive them from My house;

I will love them no more. Ho 9:15

Jesus said: "Judge with righteous judgment." Jn 7:24

The apostle Paul said we have the mind of Christ. He who is spiritual judges all things. I'm ashamed of you because you're not judging. 1 Co 2:15-16

Moses wrote of God; God said, if you do not obey me my soul shall abhor you. Lev 26:15

Paul writes inspired by the Holy Spirit. Let love be without hypocrisy. Hate evil. Ro 12:9: If you don't hate evil than your love is hypocrisy.

Should you love those who hate the Lord; therefore, the wrath of the Lord is upon you. 2 Chron 19:2

Open rebuke is better than love carefully concealed. Pr 27:5

Faithful are the wounds of a friend. Pr 27:6 I am more than a friend.

Pride comes before destruction, and an arrogant spirit before a fall. Pr 16:18

Bring here these enemies of mine, who did not want me to rule over them, and slay them before me. Lk 19:27


8d02d2 () No. 5105907

>>5097320

Target:

Matthew 13:39

The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

You can claim it's the Jews that are the enemy, but it's not.

Look at the signaling put upon the world:

Massive debt (the debt of sin)

Illegal immigration (devils enter mankind)

Powerful corrupt corporations (nameless faceless enemies)

Pollution (external reflections of internal reality)

Poverty (the rich man, the devil, owns the corrupted world)

Hatred (the opposite of loving our neighbors)

Every ILL and SIN that comes upon the visible world is a reflection of the internal enemies, the devil and his messengers individually and collectively.

It was never the Jews, or any person.

There are blinded pawns and there are those who know the real enemies are internal and unseen.

Acts 26:18

To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

The devil always points his pawns in the wrong direction, to any direction that is not the devil. And very often, that direction is the Jews. But WHY?

The devil knows that when the Face of God shines upon those who were intentionally blinded in our (Gentile) behalves, it is the END OF him.

Romans 11:

15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

Pointing to blinded pawns of the devil is pointless, apart from pinpointing the real enemy.

The world is full of blinded pawns of the devil, and not just the Jews.

Revelation 12:9

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

2 John:

7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

8 Look to yourselves,


1d0af4 () No. 5106088

>>5105639

>>5105578

>>5105783

>>5105548

^^^^^^^^^^^ desperation intensifies


1d0af4 () No. 5106177

>>5105907

u just chop and paste scriptures out of context that if it were shown with the proper context, actually proves my point.

Jesus said the Pharisees’ father was the devil… and re who is antichrists, its explained for u incase you’re too stupid to realize those who are opposed to jesus are antichrists.

Who’s opposed to Jesus?

Jesus was aboe to criticize the hypocrites and love them at the same time… as can i. Not matter how much lying and shilling u mossad faggots do - it will not cease the truth from surfacing.


8d02d2 () No. 5106373

>>5106177

"Who’s opposed to Jesus?"

The Devil, Satan, the Great Dragon

Not Jews. Not people.

The devils are not people.

Get it? Unlikely when blinded by same and pointing to anyone but.


a5713d () No. 5106489

>>5093319

>>5093317

>>5093323

>>5093325

>>5093329

>>5093338

>>5093340

>>5093367

>>5093373

>>5093380

>>5093390

>>5093395

>>5093461

>>5093916

>>5093946

>>5095745

>>5095739

>>5096802

>>5097320

>>5105326

>>5106088

>>5106177

a second muhjew fake and gay shill thread.

same old endlessly pushed, fake and gay shill garbage.

this link debunks all the shill garbage:

http://talmud.faithweb.com/

oh wait, what's this? all that garbage is taken from the "book" called "talmud unmasked"!

>talmud unmasked, a book published in 1892 by Justinas Bonaventure Pranaitis (1861–1917).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talmud_Unmasked

The author is the same clown that was exposed as a complete fraud in the Beilis trial.

He was brought over as an "expert", and got completely exposed as a fraud:

>One prosecution witness, presented as a religious expert in Judaic rituals, was a Catholic priest, Justinas Pranaitis from Tashkent, well known for his antisemitic 1892 work Talmud Unmasked. Pranaitis testified that the murder of Yushchinsky was a religious ritual, associating the murder of Yushchinsky with the blood libel, a legend believed by many Russians at the time.

>Pranaitis' credibility rapidly evaporated when the defense demonstrated his ignorance of some simple Talmudic concepts and definitions, such as hullin,[1]:p.215 to the point where "many in the audience occasionally laughed out loud when he clearly became confused and couldn't even intelligibly answer some of the questions asked by my lawyer."[3]

>A Beilis Defense Committee advisor, a writer named Ben-Zion Katz, suggested countering Father Pranaitis with questions like "When did Baba Bathra live and what was her activity" which he described as the equivalent of asking an American "Who lived at the Gettysburg Address?" There were enough Jews in the court for the resultant laughter to negate Pranatis' value to the prosecution.[1]:pp.214-216

KEK!

>A Tsarist secret police agent is quoted, reporting on Pranaitis' testimony, as saying: Cross-examination of Pranaitis has weakened evidentiary value of his expert opinion, exposing lack of knowledge of texts, insufficient knowledge of Jewish literature. Because of amateurish knowledge and lack of resourcefulness, Pranaitis' expert opinion is of very low value.

KEK!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menahem_Mendel_Beilis

oh and here is more:

>The identification of Yeshu as Jesus is problematic. For example, the Talmud mentions Yeshu ben Pandera/ben Stada's stepfather, Pappos ben Yehuda, speaking with Rabbi Akiva,[3] who was executed at the climax of the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135 CE.[4][5] Furthermore, Yeshu the Pharisee student is described as being a student of the second-century BCE nasi Joshua ben Perachiah, as well as being among the exiled Pharisees returning to Israel following their persecution[6][7] by John Hyrcanus,[8], an event which occurred in 74 BC. Additionally, Yeshu the sorcerer was executed by the royal government which lost legal authority in 63 BC. These events would place the lifetime of either Yeshu decades before or after the birth and death of Jesus.[9][10] Still, there are numerous other passages pertaining to an individual named "Yeshu" that either don't provide a specific time period or else specify a time where it is reasonable to assume mentioning of Jesus would even be possible (take for example a notable passage, Gittin 57a mentioning the nobleman Onkelos conjuring the tormented spirit of "Yeshu" – Onkelos lived more than a century after Jesus, thus making it possible the Yeshu mentioned could indeed be Jesus, though the likelihood of this is still questionable) still opening the possibility that whichever Yeshu mentioned might be Jesus. '

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud

let the shill kvetching begin!


5badb8 () No. 5106497

>>5106373

Hmmmm…

Jews do oppose Christ thou.


a5713d () No. 5106498

>>5096749

KEK! if you filter "him" you remove more than 50% of the shill thread.


1d0af4 () No. 5106502

>>5106373

So were the verses in the Talmud about Jesus boiling in an eternal pot of excrement and about Jesus fornicating with his donkey… were those written by the hands of the devil or were they the oral traditions of a certain group of Pharisees, that hijacked and subverted the religion of Moses?

Perhaps it was the devil that set the bounty on Christ’s head, had him arrested and dragged in front of Pilate and even after Pilate said he didnt think christ deserved death, still had him hung from a cross?? Was that the devil or were those human decisions being made by a fraudulent leaders hiding behind the guise of the hebrew israelite religion of Moses?

Ur retarded and u just continue to prove my point… but continue on deflecting and being a jewish apologists….

I realize most jews are good people but its quite clear that their religion has long been led by babylonian occultists that literally worship satan. The same individuals have hijacked and subverted basically every other organized religion to some extent but they can’t change the words of Christ… and thats where they’re fucked.


a5713d () No. 5106508

>>5106497

Hi spambot operator! how does it feel being relegated to a side shill thread?


1d0af4 () No. 5106542

>>5106489

>>5106498

^^^^^^^^^^^ When megajew shows up - u know mossad is triggered by the content here.

U should cry moar megajew. I love the confirmation of being over the target.

and super cool disinfo site you’ve posted a thousand times. Remember 2 biblefag breads ago, when I reviewed the whole site and completely destroyed every lie it published?

Go back and reread then kys.


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a5713d () No. 5106581

>>5106542

<oh shit boss! he got us on our brand new shill thread!!!!! what do we do?!

>don't panic. call him "megajew" and start projecting emmediately!

<on it! will also post that fake and gay propaganda book again! with some red lines to make it look organic!

>do it! also say that you reviewed his website and you debunked it! but don't bring any evidence!

<got it chief! i'll say it happened 2 breads ago! no one will look it up, plus he wasn't even posting here 2 breads ago!

>do it homo! and then ip hop and post the rabbi meme again! it'll work for sure this time…

a second muhjew fake and gay shill thread.

same old endlessly pushed, fake and gay shill garbage.

this link debunks all the shill garbage:

http://talmud.faithweb.com/

oh wait, what's this? all that garbage is taken from the "book" called "talmud unmasked"!

>talmud unmasked, a book published in 1892 by Justinas Bonaventure Pranaitis (1861–1917).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talmud_Unmasked

The author is the same clown that was exposed as a complete fraud in the Beilis trial.

He was brought over as an "expert", and got completely exposed as a fraud:

>One prosecution witness, presented as a religious expert in Judaic rituals, was a Catholic priest, Justinas Pranaitis from Tashkent, well known for his antisemitic 1892 work Talmud Unmasked. Pranaitis testified that the murder of Yushchinsky was a religious ritual, associating the murder of Yushchinsky with the blood libel, a legend believed by many Russians at the time.

>Pranaitis' credibility rapidly evaporated when the defense demonstrated his ignorance of some simple Talmudic concepts and definitions, such as hullin,[1]:p.215 to the point where "many in the audience occasionally laughed out loud when he clearly became confused and couldn't even intelligibly answer some of the questions asked by my lawyer."[3]

>A Beilis Defense Committee advisor, a writer named Ben-Zion Katz, suggested countering Father Pranaitis with questions like "When did Baba Bathra live and what was her activity" which he described as the equivalent of asking an American "Who lived at the Gettysburg Address?" There were enough Jews in the court for the resultant laughter to negate Pranatis' value to the prosecution.[1]:pp.214-216

KEK!

>A Tsarist secret police agent is quoted, reporting on Pranaitis' testimony, as saying: Cross-examination of Pranaitis has weakened evidentiary value of his expert opinion, exposing lack of knowledge of texts, insufficient knowledge of Jewish literature. Because of amateurish knowledge and lack of resourcefulness, Pranaitis' expert opinion is of very low value.

KEK!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menahem_Mendel_Beilis

oh and here is more:

>The identification of Yeshu as Jesus is problematic. For example, the Talmud mentions Yeshu ben Pandera/ben Stada's stepfather, Pappos ben Yehuda, speaking with Rabbi Akiva,[3] who was executed at the climax of the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135 CE.[4][5] Furthermore, Yeshu the Pharisee student is described as being a student of the second-century BCE nasi Joshua ben Perachiah, as well as being among the exiled Pharisees returning to Israel following their persecution[6][7] by John Hyrcanus,[8], an event which occurred in 74 BC. Additionally, Yeshu the sorcerer was executed by the royal government which lost legal authority in 63 BC. These events would place the lifetime of either Yeshu decades before or after the birth and death of Jesus.[9][10] Still, there are numerous other passages pertaining to an individual named "Yeshu" that either don't provide a specific time period or else specify a time where it is reasonable to assume mentioning of Jesus would even be possible (take for example a notable passage, Gittin 57a mentioning the nobleman Onkelos conjuring the tormented spirit of "Yeshu" – Onkelos lived more than a century after Jesus, thus making it possible the Yeshu mentioned could indeed be Jesus, though the likelihood of this is still questionable) still opening the possibility that whichever Yeshu mentioned might be Jesus. '

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud

let the shill kvetching begin!


8d02d2 () No. 5106615

>>5106497

The evil present and sin that is in the flesh of all people, which is demonic, opposes God in Christ, always.

There are no exceptions.

There are two agencies addressed by scriptures. Mankind and Devilkind.

They are not the same, but do occupy the same place. Failing to see the distinction is an open sign of spiritual blindness imposed upon pawns by the enemy agency, the DEVIL.

Even believers who claim they have no evil present, no sin, or claim same as being lawful/obedient/in faith, and that their own sins are not of the devil are also in partial blindness.

Short lessons:

All have sin.

All start life as blinded captives of the devil.

No one becomes sinless in faith, ever.

Sin is of the devil.

Devils are not obedient, but are always opposers to both God and mankind.

Those who speak evil of any person are blind to the reality of the real opposition agents, which are internal, in all.

Even so called believers are generally blind to these matters, which is a testimony to the reality of the adverse agents.

When we see only people, and not the captors of the people, we too are blinded by the enemy:

Acts 13:10

And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

In the above, there was the man, the CAPTIVE, and the ENEMY-the CAPTOR.

Count 'em or be blind.

Scriptures present a captor/captive status. They are not the same.

One is forgiven.

The other never will be forgiven.


3773a8 () No. 5106734

>>5106498

The cold reality is that it is (((YOU))) "people" who are outnumbered.

USA RUSSIA EU

and the zerg surrounding you

there does comes a point when enough have realized what you people have done


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5dfa92 () No. 5108286

>>5106581

>>5107406

your desperation is palpable. It’s embarrassing- ill say a prayer for you.


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3773a8 () No. 5110614

>>5109319

KEK

nice ID, kike!!!

c666e1

satans children bringing out the original memes

fuckin low watt brained israeli mexicans


87e589 () No. 5112817

>>5106088

I know there's still plenty of evidence to share, but I'm only interested in shitposting at the moment. So, merchants it is.


1d0af4 () No. 5114093

>>5110614

hahaha. that mossad faggot worked so hard on those memes and tries to use them here and Kek spanks him with the mark of the beast ID#!! Gotta love that!


1d0af4 () No. 5114124

>>5112817

nothing wrong with some shit posting to stir up the mossad shills.


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87e589 () No. 5116555

>>5114805

Let's just bump this a smidge shall we


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1d0af4 () No. 5120895

>>5120819

we make every day the sabbath around here faggot.


1d0af4 () No. 5121089

Taken from another post in general - explains what we see here…

Fun fact: an army of well funded, well organized jew shills patrol the internet in effort to shut down any counter-jew discussion and to promote the globalist anti-white jew agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dGJDJoeAok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XnQN9Jjh2Q

https://act-il.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYleadaZ8vM

>ACT.IL shill recruitment video

http://www.thejidf.org

http://www.thejidf.org/2008/10/about-jidf.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force

http://fortune.com/2016/09/12/facebook-google-israel-social-media/

https://archive.is/HpArO

>Why Facebook and Google Are Complying With Israel to Delete Certain Content

https://archive.is/sMsxH

>Israel’s Online Shadow Operations

>Numerous well funded, organized projects by and for Israel work to flood social media with pro-Israel propaganda, while blocking facts Israel dislikes. The projects utilize Israeli soldiers, students, American teens and others, and range from infiltrating Wikipedia, Reddit and 4chan to influencing YouTube. Some operate out of Jewish Community Centers in the U.S.

https://archive.is/bdyTW

>Israel launches secret squad to challenge negative image & boycott campaign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqhi16iikxk

>"Israel's Internet Censorship War - If Americans Knew"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ceCOhdgRBoc

>"The Lobby P1: Young Friends of Israel – Al Jazeera Investigations"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY7rNXmKjko

>"JIDF Editing on Wikipedia"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zbcEcSYcS8

>Israeli American Council shill recruitment video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2cNvncfCtk

>"Tony Martin IHR Conference Tactics of Organized Jewry in Suppressing Free Speech"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNWF9CeoZdE

>"Defamation" – Documentary about how acusations of anti-semitism are used as a JIDF tool to silence goyim who criticize anything related to jews.


3afe85 () No. 5123857

>>5120895

We don't have a sabbath day. We have a sabbath Lord.

Jesus loves you (Jn 3:16). Jesus is willing to save you (2 Pe 3:9). Repent (Eze 18:30-32; Ac 17:30). Believe (Mk 9:23).


27699b () No. 5124156

God loves the Jews, and teaches his children to love the Jews.

Satan hates the Jews, and teaches his children to hate the Jews.

From those basic premises flow the obvious conclusions.

People who love the Jews are the children of God.

People who hate the Jews are the children of Satan.


27699b () No. 5124168

>>5120895

If you were a born again Christian, that would be fine for you, but not to impose on anyone else.

As it is, your words mean nothing, and will not matter to anyone but you in a million years.

Whereas not one of the words of Jesus Christ will ever perish.


27699b () No. 5124212

What advantage then has the Jew, or what is the profit of circumcision? Much in every way! Chiefly because to them were committed the oracles of God.

For what if some did not believe? Will their unbelief make the faithfulness of God without effect? Certainly not! Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar. As it is written:

“That You may be justified in Your words,

And may overcome when You are judged.”

Found the name for your next loaf of cyanide laced bread: Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar.


1d0af4 () No. 5124956

>>5124156

well thats good… because I too love the Jews. That doesnt mean I cant criticize the Phareeisaic roots of their religion as practiced today. thats precisely what jesus did. U shoukd try to be moar like Jesus.

Jesus explained that the Pharisees had hijacked and subverted the religion of Moses with the oral traditions of man. The Pharisees’ oral traditions make up the Talmud. The Talmud is the rabbinical authoritative texts of today. Thats what we disxuss here - now why does that trigger you?


27699b () No. 5125111

>>5124956

More like Jesus, you say? Sure. I can do that.

"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."


abcfef () No. 5127391

>>5120895

The sabbath is the 7th day. PERIOD. It never changed because Jesus died one day.

Too bad Christians do not keep the 4th commandment. And of course - muh jews - turning a day of freedom from Torah into a day of Talmudic restraint and nonsense and double standards employing shabbos goys? Really?

(sick f*cks)


27699b () No. 5127420

>>5127391

Tell me, friend.

Who has ever kept any commandment?


abcfef () No. 5127441

>>5124156

Another misinformed, brainwashed Christian that does not know the difference in a Jew and an Israelite.

God loved Israel. Jesus hated the Jews. Matthew 23. Mark 7.

The 2 are not the same thing.


abcfef () No. 5127471

>>5127420

I have. And to hear that argument is a DEFEATIST argument that goes like this, "We must simply declare ourselves sinners and throw ourselves at the feet of Jesus". Taught weekly to allow you to sin with impunity?

You need to learn the Law and keep it. Not JEWISH LAW as Paul said, but the Law of God. They were/are for all people not just Israel. Did you know this? Let me share with you…

There were rules for gentiles in order to remain in Israel. Such as…

Deu 31:12 Everyone must come–men, women, children, and even the gentiles who live in your towns. And each new generation will listen and learn to worship the LORD their God with fear and trembling and to do exactly what is said in God's Law.

Lev 16:29 On the tenth day of the seventh month of each year, you must go without eating to show sorrow for your sins, and no one, including gentiles who live among you, is allowed to work.

Lev 17:10 I will turn against any of my people who eat blood. This also includes any gentiles living among you.

Lev 20:2 to say to the community of Israel: Death by stoning is the penalty for any citizens or gentiles in the country who sacrifice their children to the god Molech.

Lev 24:22 I am the LORD your God, and I demand equal justice both for you Israelites and for those gentiles who live among you.

Lev 24:22 I am the LORD your God, and I demand equal justice both for you Israelites and for those gentiles who live among you.

Num 9:14 Anyone, including gentiles who live among you, can celebrate Passover, if they follow all the regulations.


27699b () No. 5127483

>>5127441

God loves the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and teaches his children to love the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Satan hates the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and teaches his children to hate the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

From those two obvious premises, the following conclusions flow:

People who love God love the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; and

People who hate God hate the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Jesus never hated the Jews, not one, not ever.


27699b () No. 5127503

>>5127471

You have.

You have kept all of the commandments perfectly, as the Father in Heaven is perfect.

All 613.

Which you can now recite from memory.

Is that your position?


abcfef () No. 5127578

>>5127503

Not what I said, but first about 225 are now moot due to Jesus death. And I follow the Holy Days, the food laws, the sex laws, the poor and unfortunate laws. And more. I have studied them so I do not have to make some Jesus justification that all I have to do is worship him and my sins are okay - NOT! Christaniaty is faith without works and James says that is DEAD.

If you want to know more about the Laws ask me. I can lead you in the right direction…

I. GOD 238

II. The Law 238

III. Signs and Symbols 238

IV. Prayer and Blessing 239

V. Love and Brotherhood 239

VI. The Poor and Unfortunate 240

VII. Treatment of the Gentiles 240

VIII. Marriage, Divorce and Family 241

IX. Forbidden Sexual Relations 242

X. Times and Seasons 243

XI. Dietary Laws 246

XII. Business Practices 247

XIII. Employees, Servants and Slaves 248

XIV. Vows, Oaths and Swearing 249

XV. The Sabbatical and Jubilee Years 250

XVI. The Court and Judicial Procedure 250

XVII. Injuries and Damages 253

XVIII. Property and Property Rights 253

IXX. Criminal Laws 254

XX. Punishment and Restitution 254

XXI. Prophecy 256

XXII. Idolatry, Idolaters and Idolatrous Practices 256

XXIII. Agriculture and Animal Husbandry 258

XXIV. Clothing 259

XXV. The Firstborn 259

XXVI. High Priest, Priests and Levites 259

XXVII. Tithes, Taxes and T’rumah [Hebrew Offerings] 260

XXVIII. The Temple, the Sanctuary and Sacred Objects 262

IXXX. Sacrifices and Offerings 263

The firstborn 263

The Passover 263

Sacrifices and the Sanctuary 264

Levitical Offerings 264

Blemishes, Imperfections, and Cleanliness 265

Timing 265

Vows: Payments and Exchanges 266

Scheduled Sacrifices 266

Location 267

Parsimonious practicality 267

XXX. Ritual Purity and Impurity 268

XXXI. Lepers and Leprosy 268

XXXII. The King 268

XXXIII. Nazarites 269


abcfef () No. 5127618

>>5127483

Listen, Abraham was NOT a Jew. He was an Amorite.

And Jesus called the Pharisees vipers. Why?


27699b () No. 5127624

>>5127471

>>5127578

“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.

Ever mock someone?

Ever call someone a fool?

Ever hate someone?

Ever wish someone was dead?

Prejudiced against anyone?

Ever flip someone off?

Once?

That's Murder.


27699b () No. 5127635

>>5127618

Abraham was called out of Ur of the Chaldeas, and made the father of nations.

He was not an Amorite, nor is he, in God's eyes, "from" anywhere.


27699b () No. 5127649

>>5127578

“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Ever look at a naked woman?

Ever look at a woman with lust?

Ever want someone else's wife?

That's Adultery.


abcfef () No. 5127680

>>5127624

Listen to what he said. He said, "You have heard it SAID". Who says things like this? The oral law people. Whatch he says this many times. When he says "For it was written" then you need to pay attention.

And thinking something is not a sin. It is acting on these thoughts that is a sin. as he says in Mark 7 it is what comes out of you that is a sin.


abcfef () No. 5127732

>>5127649

No it is not lust or adultery. To look at a woman with sexual intent is called NORMAL. The definition of lust and adultery is this…

Lust

LUST, n.

1. Longing desire; eagerness to possess or enjoy; as the lust of gain.

My lust shall be satisfied upon them. Exo 15.

2. Concupiscence; carnal appetite; unlawful desire of carnal pleasure. Rom 1. 2 Pet 2.

UNLAWFUL DESIRE. And if you read the Law in Leviticus 18 you know the LAW of lust.

You do not know the law. Everything comes back to the law not your Christian opinion.


27699b () No. 5127739

>>5127578

“Will a man rob God?

Yet you have robbed Me!

But you say,

‘In what way have we robbed You?’

In tithes and offerings.

Sure hope you have ALL of your tightes and offerings covered; otherwise, you are stealing from God.

Liar.

Thief.

Murderer.

Adulterer.

Shall we continue?


27699b () No. 5127758

>>5127680

Was this "said" in your opinion?

Exodus 20:14 “You shall not commit adultery.


27699b () No. 5127773

>>5127680

God carved it into tablets with his finger.

Twice.

They're called "The Ten Commandments".

Maybe you've heard of them?


abcfef () No. 5127776

>>5127739

tithing was only for the Levite priesthood. No tithing is ever required to a preacher or priest.

You really do not know what you are posting, but seem to have religious dogma down good.


27699b () No. 5127792

>>5127776

Tithing EXCLUDED the Levite priesthood.

Shall we continue?


abcfef () No. 5127812

>>5127773

Again you do not read very closely. "You have heard it said" Is not the same weight as "As it was written" and you just proved my point. The tablets were WRITTEN by God in stone.


abcfef () No. 5127827

>>5127792

Tithing WAS FOR the Levite priesthood as they could not work for a living.

You need to stop.


27699b () No. 5127833

>>5127812

God said it.

God wrote it.

Jesus being God, of course.

Does it matter now?


27699b () No. 5127836

>>5127827

Numbers 18:24 For the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer up as a heave offering to the Lord, I have given to the Levites as an inheritance; therefore I have said to them, ‘Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.’ ”

I know.


abcfef () No. 5127844

>>5127833

It matters to those who wish to do righteousness.


27699b () No. 5127852

>>5127827

So do you tithe to the Levite priesthood, and give your offerings to the Temple in Jerusalem?

No?

Why not?

But don't you "keep the Law"?


abcfef () No. 5127863

>>5127836

You are mixing apples and oranges. Physical vs. spiritual.


27699b () No. 5127865

>>5127844

What use has God for your filthy rags?

Isaiah 64:6

But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags; We all fade as a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, Have taken us away.


abcfef () No. 5127872

>>5127852

As I said earlier - about 225 laws are now moot since Jesus died AND HE IS OUR HIGH PRIEST. No more Levites.


27699b () No. 5127874

>>5127863

And you discount the physical tithe, and offerings, and yet, you claim to keep the Law?

How, again?


27699b () No. 5127881

>>5127872

Really?

Says who?

You?

Like Mohammad, with the sudden revelations on how many wives Mohammad can have?


abcfef () No. 5127887

>>5127865

Another excuse for you to not keep the law. You have brainwashed yourself into loving the sinful life.


27699b () No. 5127890

>>5127872

Jesus is my High Priest, absolutely.

How is He yours?


27699b () No. 5127898

>>5127887

When was the last time you sinned?


abcfef () No. 5127906

>>5127881

Read the book of Hebrews in the NT ch.s 4-10.

ALL FOR NOW. WE ARE SHITTING UP THE BOARD.

DONE


27699b () No. 5127924

>>5127887

Could you list the 613 Laws, and then the 225 you decided didn't apply to you anymore?

And the basis upon which you refute James?

James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.


27699b () No. 5127936

>>5127906

I've read Hebrews many times. It was written to weak Christians who were weak Jews who were weakly Hellanized, and were considering lapsing back into KEEPING THE LAW.

Maybe you should re-read it.


27699b () No. 5127950

>>5127906

Oh, don't quit now. It was just getting good. I was looking forward to you saying how James doesn't matter.

You know, Jesus' half-brother, author of a book of the bible, and a devout Judaizer.

He should be your hero!


27699b () No. 5127963

>>5127906

>James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.

For when you come back.


27699b () No. 5128060

>>5127887

Seeing some holes in your strategy, Anon.

Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Oops, by trying to follow the law, you sin more:

Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound….But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead.

Go ahead and read this one about a dozen times, sport.

For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

Paul wrote that. Paul sure sounds like a "defeatest", huh.

Seems like I'm in good company.


1d0af4 () No. 5128295

>>5125111

good thing I’m not calling for them to be stoned to death… but again, great misuse of scripture. What do you call what jesus did at the msrketplace? or how he openly criticized the jews? wwjd.


87e589 () No. 5128400

>>5125111

>"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

OK.

Guess what: I don't want to dominate and enslave the world. Quite to the contrary

So fuck all the Jews who are trying to do this, I hope they get the rope.

Your stupid quote didn't quite have the impact you thought it would, did it?


27699b () No. 5128456

>>5128295

Jesus chased out thieves in the house of God, his Father, who were gouging the penitent poor at the time of the Passover.

How do you take that as license to hate all Jews, again?


27699b () No. 5128465

>>5128400

It did, actually.

It always does.

The Word of the Lord never returns void.


abcfef () No. 5128596

I WILL ANSWER AND REBUTE ALL YOUR POSTS LATER TONIGHT.

And after I do I hope you have a paradigm shift and come out of your religion into the written word of God. You are following Christian dogma which is bible lite.

I will answer all your and ask you to put your questions into 1 post from here on out. Quit being a narcissist too. We see you post.


27699b () No. 5128613

>>5128596

No, you won't.

You might ease your guilty conscience, but that's about all you'll do.


27699b () No. 5128638

>>5128596

Now you're making me feel like I'm picking on the Special Ed kid who eats his boogers.


87e589 () No. 5131004

>>5128596

>I WILL ANSWER AND REBUTE ALL YOUR POSTS LATER TONIGHT.

All the posts need additional phenylbutazone?

Dis gon b gud


dc4141 () No. 5133589

Genesis 1:1-2 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Why did the author write, "And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."? What point is being made? If you moved across the face of the waters what would you see? You would see your reflection! Why early into the creation story would this point be made? To let you know the the physical reality is a reflection of the spiritual realm. Another way of saying, "As above so below" which is in itself a type of reflection off an even truer saying, "As within so without".

Let me give you an example of this reflection of the spiritual in the physical.

CREATION >

(Female) THOUGHT + (Male) BELIEF = SPIRITUAL CONCEPTION followed by the GESTATION PERIOD and ending with BIRTH OF A NEW EXPERIENCE.

PROCREATION >

(Female) EGG + (Male) SPERM = CONCEPTION followed by the GESTATION PERIOD and ending in BIRTH OF A NEW LIFE, A BABY.

JESUS always said, "Be it done unto you according to your belief."

God always gives you exactly what you believe to be true without fail although unbelieved thoughts do nothing unless tou think them often enough to come to believe them. In fact its your subconscience that accepts thoughts that are velieved only. That's why the Lord placed CHERIBUM with flaming sword at the gate to Eden and that CHERIBUM only allows believed thoughts to enter into the garden of your mind.

There is so much more….

The best part of the Great Awakening will be the return of spiritual power or you could say, signs and wonders.

Anons you are forgiven even as you forgive others. God doesn't hold you veterns guilty of doing your job but many of you hold yourselves guilty ands it's eating you up. The moment you read this believe it lifting from tou and feel the feel of freedom once again! Your sins atr forgiven you!


abcfef () No. 5135148

>>5128060

>>5127924

>>5127874

>>5127773

Part I

(This is long and complicated. I hope you study it)…

𝟏 𝐎𝐫𝐚𝐥 𝐨𝐫 𝐰𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐧

First I would ask you to read the top opening post here of this board - the one with the winged archangel Michael. This person has identified the issue. This person is explaining to you that the Pharisees were practicing what Jesus said were “the traditions of the elders”. We also know it as the oral law. The problem is NOWHERE in the OT does it ever say God gave Israel an oral law. What God gave Israel was WRITTEN. Jesus points to this when he uses the phrases “as it was written” and “as it was said”. “As it was said” refers to the oral practices of the Pharisees, now written down as the Talmudic Law. For example Jesus said…

Mat 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.'

Where in the Torah did it ever say this? Nowhere. Who said it? The Pharisees. But then Jesus will say…

Luk_10:26 Jesus answered him, "What is written in Moses' Teachings? What do you read there?"

and here…

Luk_2:23 They did exactly what was written in the Lord's Teachings: "Every firstborn boy is to be set apart as holy to the Lord."

We must follow what was written. Jesus calls out those that use oral law. “You have heard it said” refers to the Rabbis doctrines and Jesus points this out to the people many times. What is so bad about what the Rabbis have added to the overall scope of the Law? When we add to God’s Word with oral law we violate the Torah Law here…

Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

The Jews have added to the commandments by creating their own ones. The following Jewish rituals are NOT commanded by God:

Rosh Hoshannah, Yom Kippur, a Seder, Bar Motzvah, lighting candles on the Sabbath, eating Kosher, and many more. All of these events are rituals and traditions of the elders which forms the foundation of modern day Judaism and are not of the scriptures no matter which sect you are a part of. And in fact they moot or misdirect the underlying meaning of God wants us to do on those days. And they also point us away from God’s intentions for us for those days. The Jews are so far now from God’s intentions it is very unfortunate.

𝟐 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐍𝐓 𝐭𝐚𝐥𝐤𝐬 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐋𝐚𝐰

Now we come to the NT and the lies that are taught in Christian churches due to the preachers not understanding what Paul is saying in his writings. This is because they do not understand Judaism. The written law and oral law are diametrically opposed. The Talmud is NOT an “explanation” of the Torah as some say. It is a way to moot the Torah by men’s reasoning. Who did these men think they were anyway?

Paul being a Phariseeical Jew was tapped by Jesus and he showed Paul (Saul) how stupid he was for following The Oral law. Jesus’ followers were keeping Torah Law as was Jesus. They were not Christians and that term comes from Bible mistranslations. When Paul stopped being a “Jew” he went back to the written law. He did not start Christianity. Christianity morphed out of what Paul started. What changed? That is for another time. But notice Paul’s words here…

Act 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

Paul follows everything written in the Law! And look at what he said here…

Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Again, the doers of the Law shall be justified! And again..

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Rom 6:2 God forbid.

Sin is breaking the Law. And as Jesus said…

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

and again…

Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Law and commandments! Neither of them ever preached anything else in spite of what Christians have been erroneously taught. Jesus and Paul would have nothing to do with modern day Christianity. It is a faith based doctrine totally opposite of what Jesus taught about keeping the Law and commandments.


abcfef () No. 5135155

>>5128060

>>5127924

>>5127874

>>5127773

Part II

𝟑 𝐏𝐚𝐮𝐥 𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐨𝐝

But let’s look at what else Paul wrote. For example…

Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Wait a second, Paul just wrote that you are not justified by the law, but in Romans he says you ARE justified?

And let’s look at James for a second…

Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Faith without works is dead! (Works is keeping the written law)

But here we have Paul contradicting James right?…

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

How can Paul say you do not need works when James says you do? And what did Jesus say about works?…

Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Every Christian needs to read this over and over until they get it. You are going to be judged by your works – not by some mental image you have of Jesus Christ. And even John tells us many years after Jesus’ crucifixion the same thing again…

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Again, by your works. But how can Paul claim this is not true? The POINT IS AND THE PROBLEM is that people do not understand what Paul is referring to. He is bad mouthing the law and works of the Jewish religion and their “laws” and “works”! For example many Jews think putting on a Yamalke is pleasing to God. That is boastful works – to think this little tradition means something to God when it does not. Same thing with lighting candles at the Sabbath. God never asked this of anyone. This is not a main Jewish tradition not sanctioned by God. It is a boastful work. And when the Jews accused Jesus of breaking the Sabbath they were talking about their Sabbath not the Sabbath of the Torah. One based on the written Law and one based on oral law. 2 different laws.

These ordinances of religion are what Paul means that you cannot be justified by when he talks about works not helping you. Works of law, ordinances, rule-keeping, law code, are all terms Paul uses to describe the Jewish religious laws that he says “No one can do” and “cannot help you”. He is not talking about the Torah Law in these instances. But the average person is never taught this and you folks think no one can do all the Torah Law and Torah cannot help you. WRONG! It is Torah that makes you righteous to God and in the OT they were given for all people not just Israelites. It is Jewish law that is just for Jews.

In Galatians 3 :11 – “you are not justified by the Jewish law” is what he is saying. And in Ephesians 2:8-9 “ not by religious works of Jewish law shall any man boast” is what he means. And here this verses is highly mistaken…

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

This is not talking about the Mosaic written Law. It is talking about the Jewish customs or oral law. The handwriting by men of ordinances (dogma) is against us. And this goes for any religion’s ordinances and all Christian ones. Religious rituals are meaningless to God.

Let’s look at 2 more Paul verses…

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

What Paul is saying is Jesus was born under written Law and he came to redeem those under oral law.

Now you can understand what Paul is saying and why people do not get this. And many that read this will still not get it. But some will.

Now go back and look at the things you asked me of. I study the Law. You study Christianity. And even if you do not what I wrote is for you too. If you are Jewish you need to again understand your rituals violate Torah Law. If that is so then who are you following?


89c8c8 () No. 5136001

>>5133589

The matter of forgiveness is much bigger than for self.

The time of Adam (man) was the six days (1000's of years) from 4004 bc to 1997 ad.

We now live in the time of the son of man. And this first generation of real followers of truth seekers wields all power of forgiveness, as it is written.

We are the judging the Earth, right here, right now.


8d02d2 () No. 5138969

>>5135155

Jesus on the written Laws:

Matt. 22:

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Paul on the written Laws:

Romans 13:

8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Appears identical.

The difficulty is that Love is a Spirit, the Spirit of God Himself, abiding withIN. Just as sin follows the path of thought to word to deed in culmination, Love works the same path, in thought, then word, then deed. That's how the human system is wired to move.

Thought, word, deed.

The reality is we all work both sides of the ledgers. There is no way to make evil and indwelling sin perform that which it can not and was never meant to perform. There is no reconciling between these two. There is uplifting of one, Love, and condemnation of the other, sin. Both are a reality, regardless of any claims to the opposite.

No one will avoid being "judged" as a sinner at the end. Love however will prevail, over all.

We have all been provided a contrast in this present wicked world, between good and evil. No one is only one part of the equation. No one is entirely love, and no one is entirely evil. Even the most evil at least loves their own flesh.

Most believers end up in the opposition seat about both the Law and the Spirit (these two are one). The condemn their neighbors who do not believe like them, to fry alive forever, and they justify themselves, inclusive of their own evil present and indwelling sin, falsely thinking they will dodge adverse judgments. They are technically believers who follow God (in any form or fashions) only to save their own sorry hides under falsely presented Divine extortion, meaning either do this or fry alive forever.

The fact of carnal present life is that we are all subjected internally to both good and evil, internally, in our own conscience. It's only a petty lie to think and claim otherwise. And Paul was quite clear on this count, openly stating that his own mind had thoughts very contrary to the written law (Romans 7:7-13), that he had sin (that he interestingly identified as "no longer I" twice, Romans 7:17-20, and concluded from this internal investigation of himself that evil was in fact present with him. (Romans 7:21)

From these adverse facts Paul was led to understand that unmerited Grace and the Mercy of God in Christ was the only hope available. We can not "conjure ourselves" as individuals into a state of total acceptance. It must come from God in Christ, period. And that acceptance will never extend to indwelling sin and evil present within ourselves or anyone else.

It's a Two Edged Sword. We both die and live by God's Words. There is no avoiding the adverse side of the ledgers by any form of lawkeeping.

The recipients of Grace, Mercy and Forgiveness will take the condemnation of their own sin and evil FIRST in order to understand our needs of Grace, Mercy and Forgiveness.

Understanding how screwed we really are in this present life is vital.

Luke 14:11

For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Luke 14:26

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Luke 17:10

So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

Any blowhard who says their entirety follows the law is in fact blind as blind can be. Evil and indwelling sin makes that lying claim, and makes those who claim it captives of lies and hypocrisy, instantly.


3afe85 () No. 5139045

On child-killing, serial adulterer Trump's watch (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14). Trust God's plan.

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3afe85 () No. 5139052

>>5124156

Period. Dot. Bingo.


8d02d2 () No. 5139057

>>5128060

A fair, honest and accurate take on the matters.

Technically no matter where we might think we make our stand, the indwelling sin and evil present withIN us all will never be acceptable to God in Christ, period, ever.

It is from this understanding that the fear of God is formed, because God does deal with that part of ourselves, very adversely, regardless of how good we whitewash our flesh tomb.

If we do not "experience" Divine Chastisements and personal tribulations for the factual conditions of evil present in both mind and actions, we are termed bastards not sons of God. Heb. 12:8

A believer is guaranteed adversity, and not from the actions of others, but the actions of thoughts, words and deeds that are contrary to God, that transpire continually, because of evil present and indwelling sin.

We are in fact supposed to TURN away from these things and accept the adverse Judgments of God. We do after all LIVE by every Word of God, even the bad Words we like to toss to others. These are also meant for US and oddly, are in our behalves.

Yes God in Christ is against our own sin and evil present. There is no escaping it.

Rather, we should welcome this arrival.

It is from acceptance that we HOPE to find our final division from this internal working, which only God in Christ can bring us.

The destruction of God will in fact fall upon us, at the end.


1d0af4 () No. 5139265

>>5128456

>>5128456

just show me what post I made that suggests I hate all Jews??

Read the first post of the bread you dumb ass.

oh wait, you’re a shill. nevermind. You’re going to make shit up and attack straw man constabtly here because it’s your job to subvert this board.


abcfef () No. 5140582

>>5138969

You are reading into Paul what is not there. For example…

Mat 23:23  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees…and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Mercy and grace ARE PART OF THE LAW. You do not get grace for doing nothing. Grace comes when you do the law and for some reason one day you cannot keep it. Like being late for work 1 day out of 20. They give you grace that day.

And what is love?…

Joh 14:15  If ye love me, keep my commandments. 

To love God, yourself, and your neighbor is the result of keeping the Law and the summation of it.

Again, due to misunderstanding of Paul you are telling people there is no need to keep the Law and that we simply need to throw ourselves on the mercy of Jesus. That is FALSE doctrine and Paul never taught this, but that is what is taught incorrectly. As Paul says…

Act 24:14  But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: 


abcfef () No. 5140598

>>5139057

Why don't you study the Law and quit sinning instead of making excuses for your sins?


87e589 () No. 5140656

>>5139045

>On child-killing, serial adulterer Trump's watch (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14). Trust God's plan.

>Apple demands Natural News stop writing about abortions or Satanism; threatens to block Natural News app from all Apple devices https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-02-11-apple-demands-natural-news-stop-writing-about-abortions-or-satanism.html


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a5713d () No. 5140775

>>5140718

>>5140656

a second muhjew fake and gay shill thread.

same old endlessly pushed, fake and gay shill garbage.

this link debunks all the shill garbage:

http://talmud.faithweb.com/

oh wait, what's this? all that garbage is taken from the "book" called "talmud unmasked"!

>talmud unmasked, a book published in 1892 by Justinas Bonaventure Pranaitis (1861–1917).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talmud_Unmasked

The author is the same clown that was exposed as a complete fraud in the Beilis trial.

He was brought over as an "expert", and got completely exposed as a fraud:

>One prosecution witness, presented as a religious expert in Judaic rituals, was a Catholic priest, Justinas Pranaitis from Tashkent, well known for his antisemitic 1892 work Talmud Unmasked. Pranaitis testified that the murder of Yushchinsky was a religious ritual, associating the murder of Yushchinsky with the blood libel, a legend believed by many Russians at the time.

>Pranaitis' credibility rapidly evaporated when the defense demonstrated his ignorance of some simple Talmudic concepts and definitions, such as hullin,[1]:p.215 to the point where "many in the audience occasionally laughed out loud when he clearly became confused and couldn't even intelligibly answer some of the questions asked by my lawyer."[3]

>A Beilis Defense Committee advisor, a writer named Ben-Zion Katz, suggested countering Father Pranaitis with questions like "When did Baba Bathra live and what was her activity" which he described as the equivalent of asking an American "Who lived at the Gettysburg Address?" There were enough Jews in the court for the resultant laughter to negate Pranatis' value to the prosecution.[1]:pp.214-216

KEK!

>A Tsarist secret police agent is quoted, reporting on Pranaitis' testimony, as saying: Cross-examination of Pranaitis has weakened evidentiary value of his expert opinion, exposing lack of knowledge of texts, insufficient knowledge of Jewish literature. Because of amateurish knowledge and lack of resourcefulness, Pranaitis' expert opinion is of very low value.

KEK!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menahem_Mendel_Beilis

oh and here is more:

>The identification of Yeshu as Jesus is problematic. For example, the Talmud mentions Yeshu ben Pandera/ben Stada's stepfather, Pappos ben Yehuda, speaking with Rabbi Akiva,[3] who was executed at the climax of the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135 CE.[4][5] Furthermore, Yeshu the Pharisee student is described as being a student of the second-century BCE nasi Joshua ben Perachiah, as well as being among the exiled Pharisees returning to Israel following their persecution[6][7] by John Hyrcanus,[8], an event which occurred in 74 BC. Additionally, Yeshu the sorcerer was executed by the royal government which lost legal authority in 63 BC. These events would place the lifetime of either Yeshu decades before or after the birth and death of Jesus.[9][10] Still, there are numerous other passages pertaining to an individual named "Yeshu" that either don't provide a specific time period or else specify a time where it is reasonable to assume mentioning of Jesus would even be possible (take for example a notable passage, Gittin 57a mentioning the nobleman Onkelos conjuring the tormented spirit of "Yeshu" – Onkelos lived more than a century after Jesus, thus making it possible the Yeshu mentioned could indeed be Jesus, though the likelihood of this is still questionable) still opening the possibility that whichever Yeshu mentioned might be Jesus. '

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud

let the shill kvetching begin!


1d0af4 () No. 5140777

>>5139052

>>5124156

^^^^^^^^^^^ on trump’s watch shill and lecturefag agreeing with eachother.

Not Surprised… Thats because they’re cubicle m8s working out of same tel aviv office.


5dfa92 () No. 5140828

>>5140775

You post the same copy pasta lies everytime the Talnud is brought up. We already destroyed your fake disinfo site two biblefag breads ago and the book you bring up as a straw man has never been mentioned or referenced by anyone here.

Why do you make such bold lies about the true contents of the Talmud? Something tells me it has to do with the attached Talmud verse.


1d0af4 () No. 5140895

>>5140775

nothing is better than when i see you posting your lies again, confirming to anons here that we are over the target.

thanks again!


27699b () No. 5141881

>>5140777

People who are telling the truth do not need to collude with each other in order to say the same things.

The truth is the truth; it was true yesterday, it is true today, and it is true forever.

Because you have been brainwashed to believe there is no objective truth, answer me this: Is the following sentence objectively true?

"There is no such thing as objective truth."


27699b () No. 5141897

>>5140582

>You do not get grace for doing nothing.

That is literally the definition of the word "grace".


27699b () No. 5141979

>>5139265

Do you believe posting the most vile, hateful and disgusting parts of the talmud, over and over and over again, is evidence that you love the Jews?

Out of 100 Jews today, how many do you believe have memorized the talmud? How many study it? How many read it?

If you answer with any double digit number, you need to meet more Jews.


27699b () No. 5141997

>>5139265

>subvert

You misspelled convert.

I want everyone here to go to heaven forever.

Is that not your goal too?

How are you achieving it, again?


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27699b () No. 5142050

>>5135148

So your theory in a nutshell is that even though the Jews had the Law, and knew to live by it, but did not, that Jesus then was required to come to earth to be tortured to death to what, encourage them to go back to the Law?

I still see absolutely nothing from you that shouts "I follow the Law perfectly!"

Sin is not breaking the Law; sin is not being perfect, like the Father in heaven is perfect.

Are you perfect, as the Father in heaven is perfect?

Heck, is your own "righteousness" even on par with the extremely religious pharisees you mock for their failures?

Would they even consider you partly religious?


27699b () No. 5142068

>>5135155

Not justified by the Law.

Justified by faith.

You: Paul is saying I have to be justified by the law. Which nobody ever is. No, not one. But you, you champ. You're going to be the first, besides Jesus of course.

Because you're just as holy as Jesus!


27699b () No. 5142079

>>5138969

Jesus: Taught the Law.

Christianity: Did not arrive on planet earth until 50 days after the crucifixion.

You: I'm following what Jesus taught!


27699b () No. 5142091

>>5139057

Yup. Unless a man is imputed the righteousness of Christ Jesus Himself, he will in no wise enter into the Kingdom of God.

No matter how much he "tries" to follow the Law.


1d0af4 () No. 5142654

>>5141881

>>5141897

>>5141979

>>5141997

>>5142050

>>5142068

>>5142079

>>5142091

^^^^^^^^^^^^ lecturefagging intensifies

Do you know how to use a single post and reply to many postings at once?? or is your job just to chew up bread with cliche Christian lecturefagging.

You sound like a lecturer at Moody Bible Institute, who’s been indoctrinated by centuries worth of indoctrinated leaders before him to pick and choose what verses of the bible and use them out of context, in order to most pussify the gentile.

You’re here lecturing people for discussing or criticising the oral traditions of the same people Jesus criticized?? and u think you look anon?

Keep glowing faggot. You’ve been doing this for 3 breads. Funny how we had 5 normal biblefag breads that took a couple months each to fill. the moment I focused on the (((Pharisees))) with the title and content, we have had you distinctive shills showing up and filling a bread in a couple weeks.

It doesn’t take a genius to figure out what happened.

We triggered u mossad clowns and I’m loving every minute of it. Its nice to catch flack cus u know ur over the target.


27699b () No. 5143307

>>5142654

Strange how coincidental my "posting style" keeps this bread near the top rows of the catalog. Odd indeed.


3afe85 () No. 5143321

…(Ps 50:16–21)

…Participation in sin (50:18) : They help thieves and spend time with adulterers. Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (Ps 50:14–18). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.


1d0af4 () No. 5143370

>>5143307

You rapid fire bumps… when u post 10 times in 10 minutes, its basically as helpful as bumping it once.

Do 10 posts and each one 10 minutes apart and you keep it at the top for 2 hours… not 10 minutes.

But u know this already.


27699b () No. 5143485

So we all know that Brock, Soros, etc., pay shills to poison this site. And lately all they do is hammer the Jews for their fanfic, the talmud. Note they never praise the Jews for their preservation of the torah; note they never praise the Jews for their preservation of the prophets, etc. Just mass condemnation for the Jews leaving their holy scriptures and following their own fanfic.

Is this unique, or do other groups also leave their "holy" writings, and follow their own fanfic?

Islam: The hadiths matter, not the quran. We affirm the quran states that the bible is the Word of God, and then completely dismiss the bible as "corrupted" without any evidence.

Catholics: The catechism matters, not the bible. Oh, and we have our own version of the bible that supports our narrative.

Mormons: The Book of Mormon matters, not the bible. Oh, and we have our own version of the bible that supports our narrative.

JW: The Watchtower matters, not the bible. Oh, and we have our own version of the bible that supports our narrative.

SDA: The Present Truth matters, not the bible. Oh, and we have our own version of the bible that supports our narrative.

Hindus: The sacred Vedas are the basis for our mono/poly/pan-theistic reigion that worships 1 god, or 330,000,000 gods, depending on who's counting.

Buddhists: The Vedas are not holy, nor scripture. And we're not a religion, unless we say we are. And we are enlightened if we say we are, even if you can't tell the difference. Chop sticks, draw water.

Where are the dozens, or hundreds, of breads about each of these hypocritical "religions"?

Why the hyperfocus, hatred, and animosity for the few millions of people who think they're Jews? And not for the BILLIONS of these other hypocrites?

Is the agenda clear now?


27699b () No. 5143489

>>5143370

I find it fascinating that you think you know what I know.

What do I think of you?


1d0af4 () No. 5143671

>>5143321

Keep glowing mossad…

Why did you only show up once the biblefags bread started focusing on the (((Pharisees)))?

>>5143489

I couldnt care less what you think of me. You are a shill.

>>5143485

Q has said mossad is here subverting the board. Q has never said Soros or Brock is paying people to be here but keep up the word salad and trying to lecturefag everyone about how righteous you are and how we are evil for discussing the same exact people Jesus Christ called out as being hypocrites and the sons of the Devil. We know not all jews are bad. We also know we why shills like i scream reeeeee anytime a jew is exposed. If you dont like it here, why are u here? U have the most posts on the board and you’re not the baker?? Who spends this much time trying to subvert genuine discussion?? oh thats right… Q already told us, mossad does.

He also said mossad is the handler for the entire msm and alt media, as well as our politicians…

and what sort of discussion does mossad deem most worthy of shilling? Perhaps anything related to (((them)))??

Keep trying faggot - I love to watch your desperation.


abcfef () No. 5144139

>>5142068

Do you have reading issues? You did not read what I posted and you do not understand Paul. Can this be more plain?…

Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 

What is it there you do not get? Oh, but wait. What about this…

Gal 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 

A contradiction? No. Paul is talking about 2 DIFFERENT laws. In Romans it is the Law. In galatians it is the Talmudic oral law. This is the issue. You folks do not get that Paul talks about 2 laws not 1.

You are judged according to Torah Law and that defines sin. Whether you call yourself a Christian or Jew or Atheist is totally irrelevant. Whether you imagine Jesus or Abraham in your dreams is irrelevant. You and everyone who has lives will be judged by your sins/works.

The scriptures tell us this over and over.

Mat 16:27  For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. 

Rev 20:13  And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 

No one is judged by God as to whether he worships Jesus or not and no where did Jesus command it. Law 2, 7 and 8 point to this however.


abcfef () No. 5144264

>>5142091

This is simply a lie. You are espousing some Baptist of other dogma. And this idea is very vain and very divisive.

Nowhere in the bible does it say this. I have given you the verses that you will not read for some reason.


27699b () No. 5144506

>>5143671

>>>5143489 (You)

>I couldnt care less what you think of me. You are a shill.

Yet you took the time to respond.

Also, the [projection] is real with you, isn't it.


27699b () No. 5144511

>>5143671

>Q has said mossad is here subverting the board.

Q actually said AJ is MOS, and the fake MAGA attacks against POTUS involve a bunch of AJ sycophants.

Do you even Q bro?


27699b () No. 5144548

>>5144139

>Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 

And the doers of the Law number exactly 1. Jesus Christ.

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

Their feet are swift to shed blood:

Destruction and misery are in their ways:

And the way of peace have they not known:

There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Acts 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Gee, I wonder what that means. You read that and say I MUST BE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW OF MOSES!

kek


27699b () No. 5144596

>>5144264

Paul, the author of the Epistle to the Romans, and the greatest Christian who ever lived, lied under inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God? You're betting your soul on that proposition?

And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.

Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

What's that at the end there? The Law of Faith? I wonder what that means.


27699b () No. 5145737

To the Anon who thinks he is following the Law of God:

Note I have never told you, instructed you, or encouraged you not to live by the Laws of God.

Only that it is impossible.

When you find out on your own that it is impossible, remember that with God, all things are possible.

So that every moment you live your life in the Spirit of God, in that moment, you do not sin.

Because the righteousness of Jesus Christ is imputed to you.

Jesus said that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the pharisees and scribes, you will in no wise enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Those men devoted their lives to the Law of God, no matter how badly you condemn them as failures.

They succeeded more than you, and less than required.

There must be another way to be considered righteous by God.

There must be another way to be justified in the eyes of God.

It must be plainly set forth in the Word of God.

Romans 10:9-13

But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

It's time to enter into the New Covenant, instead of failing to qualify for the Old Covenant, which itself is fading away into nothingness.


a5713d () No. 5145782

>>5140828

>>5143671

>>5140895

a second muhjew fake and gay shill thread.

same old endlessly pushed, fake and gay shill garbage.

this link debunks all the shill garbage:

http://talmud.faithweb.com/

oh wait, what's this? all that garbage is taken from the "book" called "talmud unmasked"!

>talmud unmasked, a book published in 1892 by Justinas Bonaventure Pranaitis (1861–1917).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talmud_Unmasked

The author is the same clown that was exposed as a complete fraud in the Beilis trial.

He was brought over as an "expert", and got completely exposed as a fraud:

>One prosecution witness, presented as a religious expert in Judaic rituals, was a Catholic priest, Justinas Pranaitis from Tashkent, well known for his antisemitic 1892 work Talmud Unmasked. Pranaitis testified that the murder of Yushchinsky was a religious ritual, associating the murder of Yushchinsky with the blood libel, a legend believed by many Russians at the time.

>Pranaitis' credibility rapidly evaporated when the defense demonstrated his ignorance of some simple Talmudic concepts and definitions, such as hullin,[1]:p.215 to the point where "many in the audience occasionally laughed out loud when he clearly became confused and couldn't even intelligibly answer some of the questions asked by my lawyer."[3]

>A Beilis Defense Committee advisor, a writer named Ben-Zion Katz, suggested countering Father Pranaitis with questions like "When did Baba Bathra live and what was her activity" which he described as the equivalent of asking an American "Who lived at the Gettysburg Address?" There were enough Jews in the court for the resultant laughter to negate Pranatis' value to the prosecution.[1]:pp.214-216

KEK!

>A Tsarist secret police agent is quoted, reporting on Pranaitis' testimony, as saying: Cross-examination of Pranaitis has weakened evidentiary value of his expert opinion, exposing lack of knowledge of texts, insufficient knowledge of Jewish literature. Because of amateurish knowledge and lack of resourcefulness, Pranaitis' expert opinion is of very low value.

KEK!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menahem_Mendel_Beilis

oh and here is more:

>The identification of Yeshu as Jesus is problematic. For example, the Talmud mentions Yeshu ben Pandera/ben Stada's stepfather, Pappos ben Yehuda, speaking with Rabbi Akiva,[3] who was executed at the climax of the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135 CE.[4][5] Furthermore, Yeshu the Pharisee student is described as being a student of the second-century BCE nasi Joshua ben Perachiah, as well as being among the exiled Pharisees returning to Israel following their persecution[6][7] by John Hyrcanus,[8], an event which occurred in 74 BC. Additionally, Yeshu the sorcerer was executed by the royal government which lost legal authority in 63 BC. These events would place the lifetime of either Yeshu decades before or after the birth and death of Jesus.[9][10] Still, there are numerous other passages pertaining to an individual named "Yeshu" that either don't provide a specific time period or else specify a time where it is reasonable to assume mentioning of Jesus would even be possible (take for example a notable passage, Gittin 57a mentioning the nobleman Onkelos conjuring the tormented spirit of "Yeshu" – Onkelos lived more than a century after Jesus, thus making it possible the Yeshu mentioned could indeed be Jesus, though the likelihood of this is still questionable) still opening the possibility that whichever Yeshu mentioned might be Jesus. '

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud

let the shill kvetching continue!


1d0af4 () No. 5145992

>>5144511

Q drop 1751 ding dong. Keep lying tho.

>>5144139

>>5144264

the shill u are speaking to does not take time to read your responses. He uses moar word salad and builds his false narrative. He is mossad. He is scared and subverting like his life depended on it.

>>5145782

please lie moar.


1d0af4 () No. 5146040

>>5145782

and show me one post that refers to the book u keep using as your straw man…

why do you refuse to respond to any valid points anons mention and instead revert back to your copy pasta lies?? perhaps cus you’re a mossad faggot who is just here to cover for (((them)))??


a5713d () No. 5146486

>>5145992

>>5146040

<YO BOSS! HOW DO WE KVETCH OUT OF IT?

>JUST SAY NO ON TALKED ABOUT HIS BOOK

<BUT THE GARBAGE "BOOK" WE POSTED! ITS BASED ON IT! IT HAS THE EXACT SAME FAKE AND GAY QUOTES!

>THEY ARE IDIOTS, THEY WONT DOUBLE CHECK!

<AND HIS LINK? WE NEVER TACKLED HIS LINK!

>AGAIN HOMO, THEY ARE MORONS, WE WILL FOOL THEM EASILY!


87e589 () No. 5146649

Shocking to see how much shilling is going on here.

Usually this sort of blatant activity only happens in JQ research (although there's plenty going on in Q research general, haaa!), but it appears what (((they))) are REALLY scared of is Christians finding out JUST HOW BADLY THE JEWS HATE THEM AND CONTINUE TO BETRAY THEM.

(((You))) are so fucked.

I suggest you all make your escapes to third-world shitholes now, you might get a few more years (months?) of freedom… Or life.

…Soon.


abcfef () No. 5147448

>>5144596

Please listen…

1. You are talking about Abraham first. Let's look at the entire picture of Abraham shall we? This is the verse you never read…

Gen 26:5  Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. 

Abraham equal FAITH + WORKS.

2. "Deeds of law" is NOT Mosaic Law. That is religious rituals. Every religions has deeds of law or works of law. NOT Torah. Torah is simply Law.

3. Works here is NOT Mosaic Law again. That is the problem with Paul. He is explaining to people that Jewish rituals, deeds of law, rule-keeping, is NOT to be done.

4. The law of faith? Let's compare bible translations here. The first one is a Christianized bible…

Romans 3:27

(CEV)  What is left for us to brag about? Not a thing! Is it because we obeyed some law? No! It is because of faith.

Seems to say no Law, just faith right? But how can that be if the law is in effect which it is or we would not be sinners right? 2nd comparison…

(LITV)  Then where is the boasting? It was excluded. Through what law? Of works? No, but through a Law of faith.

Again, be careful when Paul uses the word works. It usually means religious works (lighting candles, wearing hats, drinking wines, etc. As these things mean nothing to God if not written in the bible to do.)

But look at this bible…

(TS2009)  Where, then, is the boasting? It is shut out. By what torah? Of works? No, but by the torah of belief.

The Torah of belief? Faith, belief, makes your will and drive to keep the Law more desirable.

Faith + Works = Justified/righteous in the sight of God. Nowhere does Jesus endorse sin.


abcfef () No. 5147669

>>5145737

I hear what you say, but you are living a delusion. No offense to you, but you are espousing Christian church dogma. Let me explain a little…

You need to understand what sin is. Due to the ignorance, naivity, or control of the Christian preachers priests, etc. Law is never taught. Only faith and grace from the Christian perspective. We hear the preacher tell the people "You are sinners" every week, but has one ever told them to NOT SIN? Why not teach people to not sin? Instead the seem to allow sin with the hope and thought that somehow "Your sins are blotted out by Jesus". That is the delusional part.

According to John in the NT what is sin? Not what you are told at church or by friends. What is sin?…

1Jn 3:4  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 

Sin is breaking the Law. It is that simple. there is not other truer explanation of the word sin. And if you are a sinner then the Law is in effect. (However, Jewish law is NOT in effect and that is Paul's message, though it is hard to understand I have been trying to explain).

What about sin? Sin is a killer. God said sex with a man if you are a man is a sin. Why? He is trying to keep you from the myriad of disease issues that can arise. They did not have science telling them anal sex and blood to blood sharing can cause all kinds of problems back then. But now we know why that commandment. Are you telling me if I love Jesus with all my heart he does not care if I get AIDS? Can he block that out? Of course he cares.

What about the other sins? Easter is a sin. Worshipping Aestarte is evil to God. A sin. But you do that and think Jesus is okay with that? Yous how God your ARE NOT in synch with his wishes when you do these things.

How should you treat your employees? You probably think you have good workplace rules for them, but are actually sinning against them daily. You are hurting them thinking you do good.

What about food you eat? Is your body not a temple of God? Do you think Jesus cares that you destroy it by eating unclean foods? Of course he cares. How can he block out your cancer?

See you folks think sin is disrupting some Jesus + you mojo connection and have not been taught that sins are PHYSICAL things you do that hurt you, your mate, your friend, your employees, your animals, etc etc etc. What you think is good most of the time is EVIL to God and out of synch. For example…

An Episcopal friend goes to church in Sunday. Before he worships he eats the breakfast buffet and has bacon and eggs. He then goes and watches the priest do the ceremony and worships the Trinity (not biblical).

This typical regiment caused him to sin 5 times this morning. 5 sins in that typical scenario.

Learn to keep the Holy Days, the Food laws, the sex laws, and that is a good place to start. Or as they said in Acts to start keeping the Law do this…

Act 15:29  by keeping away from food sacrificed to false gods, from eating bloody meat, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from sexual sins. If you avoid these things, you will be doing what's right. Farewell! 

Same for today.


4c3cb7 () No. 5147824

The bible is the most anti-semitic thing I've ever read


4c3cb7 () No. 5147969

Acts 5:3-4

Then said Peter, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart, that thou shouldest lie unto the holy Ghost, and keep away part of the price of this possession?

While it remained, appertained it not unto thee? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? how is it that thou hast conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Colossians 1:15-17

[the Son] is the image of the invisible God, the first begotten of every creature.

For by him were all things created which are in heaven, and which are in earth, things visible and invisible: whether they be Thrones, or Dominions, or Principalities, or Powers, all things were created by him, and for him.

And he is before all things, and in him all things consist.

Colossians 2:9

For in [Christ] dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

Genesis 1:26

Furthermore God said, Let us make man in our image according to our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the heaven, and over the beasts, and over all the earth, and over everything that creepeth and moveth on the earth.

John 10:30

I and my Father are one.

John 14:16-17

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever,

Even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him: for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Matthew 28:19

Go therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, and the Son, and the holy Ghost,


2efa9a () No. 5148037

Job 33:19-28

Man is also chastened with pain on his bed, and with enduring pain in all of his bones, so that his life loathes bread, and his soul succulent food. His flesh wastes away from sight, and his bones that were not seen now stick out. His soul draws near to destruction, and his life to the ones who put to death. If there be for him a messenger, a mediator, one among a thousand to show man his uprightness, then he shall have mercy on him saying, 'Deliver him from descending into destruction, I have found a ransom.' His flesh shall be renewed as a child's, he returns to the days of his youth. He prays to God, and he will delight in him, and he will see his face and rejoice, for he shall render unto man his righteousness. He will say to men, 'I sinned, and what was upright I caused to be depraved, but he has not repaid me what I deserved, for he ransomed my soul from ruin; my life beholds the light.


27699b () No. 5148057

>>5145992

Ask yourself a (simple) logical question…

Why are the majority of 'Q' attacks by "PRO_MAGA" supporters coming from AJ [MOS backed] and/or AJ known associates?

Why are we a threat to them?

Why not simply publish an original picture +/- 1,2,3 secs to establish credibility?

Why was this done in the past?

We knew this type of "attack" was coming.

PREDICTABLE.

FAKE NEWS.

ATTACKS WILL ONLY INTENSIFY.

Q

Do you even Q bro?


27699b () No. 5148069

>>5147448

Abraham: 400 years before the law was given to Moses.

Now what?


27699b () No. 5148093

>>5147448

>Faith + Works = Justified/righteous in the sight of God

Can you show that in the bible? Oh, what am I saying. Of course you can't. You still think you're supposed to follow the Law, and that Jesus came to earth to remind people to follow the Law.


27699b () No. 5148116

>>5147669

Actually, YOU need to know what sin is.

Sin means "missing the mark", as an archer looses an arrow that completely misses the mark. He sinned.

Your mark is to "be perfect, as the Father in heaven is perfect".

And yet, you're a pitiful bag of filthy rags.

Is the Father in heaven a pitiful bag of filthy rags?

Then you are not as perfect as the Father in heaven is perfect, are you.

You are conflating sin with iniquity, with transgression, with violating the Law; you're missing the entire point.

The entire point is that unless you are LIKE GOD, you cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.

Are you LIKE GOD yet?

When do you think you will become LIKE GOD?


27699b () No. 5148125

>>5147824

Warts and all, bro. Warts and all. The most reliable document in existence.


27699b () No. 5148484

For Anon who thinks he has to follow the Law of God to be justified.

Matthew 7

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

>What is the will of the Father in heaven?

Matthew 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.

>What are the works God requires of men?

John 6:29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”

Back to Matthew 7

Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’

Anon, have you cast out demons? Have you prophesied in the name of Jesus? Have you done many wonders in Jesus' name? No? Nothing even close? You just tell people on the internet that you're doing your best not to be a criminal?

Back to Matthew 7

And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Definition of practicing lawlessness: Trying to practice following the Law, and constantly failing. That is practicing lawlessness. That is what YOU are doing.

I suggest you find out what the New Covenant is, and forget trying to qualify under the Old Covenant to get more dough for your kneading bowl, to lend and not borrow, and to not have animals rend your children. Wait. You didn't know those were some of the blessings under the Old Covenant, which had nothing to do with the afterlife at all?

How is that possible, oh ye who study the Law?


8d02d2 () No. 5148585

>>5142079

If you lived truthfully under the law, you'd know the law was made precisely to reveal and condemn sin.

Jesus did no differently. And we should be aligned with that intent as well.

What it doesn't mean is that following the law will make anyone sinless. That never happened or happens. That's where the delusion exists, in mind.

Evil present and indwelling sin does not and can not follow the law. Evil and sin can however deceive people and lie to people and turn them into hypocrites.

Happens all the time.


8d02d2 () No. 5148682

>>5140598

1 Timothy 1:15

This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Paul's statement of fact, after salvation. I am, not I was.

At least Paul told the truth, and very contrary to your claims of sinlessness.

Evil present withIN no man follows the law, but openly resists it.

Take the conclusions like a man.

Romans 3:19

Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Romans 3:20

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Romans 5:20

Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

1 Corinthians 15:56

The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Romans 7:

13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

Lying hypocrisy is the culmination of internal lawlessness of the mind and heart.

And you get a side dose of hating all your neighbors who don't believe "like your sinless self" to burn alive forever in hell, the very opposite of what the law does command.


8d02d2 () No. 5148697

>>5140582

Sinless people don't need Divine Mercy or unmerited Grace of God in Christ.

Evil present and indwelling sin as facts, are the basis of our needs of the above.


074604 () No. 5149024

Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult.

It is an in-depth study that cites Dal's study of this matter, as well as many other respected investigators who have researched this rather grisly topic. Complete documentary on the ritual abuse crimes of Jews over the centuries.

Many people have written about this topic: Dr. Arnold Leese, Dr. Hellmutt Schramm, Dr. Philip DeVier, Dr. Harrell Rhome, Dr. Edward Fields, Attorney and Duma Member G.G. Zamyslovsky, Russian Poet V.V. Rozanov, numerous Popes, Martin Luther (the founder of the Lutheran Church), King Ferdinand of Spain, and many other well-respected people throughout the course of time.

Were they merely "hate mongers," as Jews might say, or was there something more? Some who study such matters may recall the May 1, 1989 Oprah Winfrey Show, and how a Jewish girl came out and told how members of her family–and other prominent Jews who were involved in the government and in other respectable jobs–had been involved in the cruel act of human sacrifice. She described the situation in detail. Curiously enough, that very same year, a child's skeletal remains had been discovered in a synagogue's basement.

This video traces the ancient Babylonian child sacrifice practices that are still done secretly today. Ever wonder why there are so many missing children across the US/Canada? What happens to them?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynce_945vl4


1d0af4 () No. 5149351

>>5149024

Very interesting. Funny how it always leads back to mystery babylon being discovered.


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abcfef () No. 5151076

>>5148069

There have been many covenants and Laws over time. Much more than Mosaic Law.

Adam and Eve had Law. We do not know what they were, but they violated them or there would have been no sin in the "garden".

After Adam and Eve God gave us the Noahide Laws in Gen 9. And it is these Laws today's Jews want to put the Gentile under if they have their way.

Then we have the Mosaic Law which was for EVERYBODY and defines sin through today. The reason YOU and I are sinners is because we break the Mosaic Law. Me not so much anymore, but Christians daily.

Then this Mosaic Law slightly changed after Jesus died since the need for animal sacrifice was done away with and also since the atonement for sin was moved to the tribe of Judah and taken from Levi. In fact this is what the New Covenant is of today. A simple change in sin atonement after Jesus death. However, Jesus death did not remove sin from the world. It changed the procedure for atonement. (And his death does not mean you can sin while imagining him smiling down at you either).

And finally there will be another covenant for those raised from the dead after the coming of the Messiah. As we read…

Jer 31:31  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 

Jer 31:32  Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 

Jer 31:33  But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 

As most Christians read the NT and believe Abraham was a man of faith, I always point out that he kept the Law. His Law. Which would have been the Noahide Law I guess for his time period. And you do know Abraham was NOT a Jew or Israelite correct? He was an Amorite. Why the Jews back claim him I do not know.


abcfef () No. 5151143

>>5148697

No. You sin. And need to stop it. No Christian has ever repented. Why? Because they are never taught the Law. Again, sins are physical things that hurt situations and people. They are not things that mess up your MOJO with Jesus and he simply wipes the MOJO clean.

If Christians knew what sins were the country and world would be IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE. You destroy things practicing the lawless religion of Christianity and miss out on the bigger picture.

For example, why don't Christians keep the Feat of Trumpets? You ever heard of it? The reason is the Jews changed it to some ritual called Rosh Hoshannah which masks it.

When does Jesus return?…

1Co 15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 

At the last trumpet. Revelations - 7 seals, bowls and trumpets. At the last trumpet he comes. So God told us to blow the trumpet to usher in his coming and say "Come now Jesus". But the preachers have you hold hands and pray for Jesus to return. Not the way God said to do it.

Why do Christians keep Easter? Nowhere did God or Jesus say to make his resurrection a festival did he? It is Jesus' DEATH AND SHEDDING of blood we are told to follow once a year called the Passover! But again the Jews changed the meaning and created a Seder. A seder is nothing to do with the Passover.

When you keep God's Holy Days that is the first step to keeping the Law and repenting. Get in synch with God not man's holy BS days.


abcfef () No. 5151197

>>5148116

Satan sure has you blinded. You are a salesman to sin. And for the LAST time there is no such thing as "missing the mark" to define sin. That is Christian DOGMA.

Why can't you people believe in the word of God? Can you show me where the bible says sin is missing the mark? What mark? I can show you this…

1 John 3:4

(CEV)  Everyone who sins breaks God's law, because sin is the same as breaking God's law.

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

(LITV)  Everyone practicing sin also practices lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

(TS2009)  Everyone doing sin also does lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

(YLT)  Every one who is doing the sin, the lawlessness also he doth do, and the sin is the lawlessness,

Did you read this? Should I post it again for you?…

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


8d02d2 () No. 5151605

>>5151197

You are missing one very vital piece of factual information directly from the Mouth of God, to the puzzle of scripture, to put the pieces together:

Mark 4:

15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

What you think is just you, isn't.

Romans 11:32

For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

You as God's child are the recipient of Divine Mercy as a result of this binding in the flesh to an agency that is not you. And that agency is lawless, no matter what you think or do.

That fact, of Mark 4:15 Paul accepted for himself as a fact. This fact led him to statements of fact that follow quite logically:

Romans 7:21

I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

The hard line fact of Mark 4:15, where Paul did not see only himself, as an individual, led him to the again factual conclusion that he was the chief of sinners after salvation. Why? Because Paul is not seeing only himself. He sees also the spirit of disobedience, the adversary, working against his own mind.

John saw it as well:

1 John 3:8

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Is the devil interested in hearing the facts of scripture?

Never. He'll lie his way to the grave, in deceptions and dishonesty. All the while claiming he's really YOU.

Good luck in your division. Not all of you, of course.


8d02d2 () No. 5151615

>>5151143

No one stops sinning. Not even for a nanosecond does anyone ever become sinless in the flesh.

You're chasing a fallacy, courtesy of the adversary. It's a common affliction, that delusion.


2f6423 () No. 5151794

>>5151076

Adam was the Ruler of earth, All the animals, air sea and land was at his command. Eve committed sin not adam. Adam participated because he feared losing eve.

The Serpent tricked adam into giving up his throne. The serpent still sits on mans throne.


2f6423 () No. 5151999

>>5151076

Jews break every law and follow their oral tradition, They even broke the oath not to build a nation until the messiah arrives again.

They Treat "Goyim" as less than animals, What kind of god gives them special favors and privileges over others? They act as if they ar some special race when they come from noah just as we do.


3afe85 () No. 5155059

On child-killing, serial adulterer Trump's watch (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14). Trust God's plan. https://www.theisraelwire.com/2019/02/11/abortion-was-the-leading-cause-of-death-worldwide-in-2018-killing-42-million-people-your-tax-money-funded-many-of-them.html


abcfef () No. 5155190

>>5151605

And if you understand the Word of God you will avoid evil and avoid Satan, Otherwise you have no clue where he is leading you.

The Word and the Law take you OUT of sin. You have not read these words as you were falsely told they were for Jews only. No, it is Jewish Law that is for Jews not the Written Law of God. Quit following unclean food laws, keeping false holy days, etc. You are not in synch with God's plan.

Go read the TOP POST from the main anon hear and re-read my posts. You are still trying to justify no Law.

Again the OT was for you too. Please read…

There were rules for gentiles in order to remain in Israel. Such as…

Deu 31:12 Everyone must come–men, women, children, and even the gentiles who live in your towns. And each new generation will listen and learn to worship the LORD their God with fear and trembling and to do exactly what is said in God's Law.

Lev 16:29 On the tenth day of the seventh month of each year, you must go without eating to show sorrow for your sins, and no one, including gentiles who live among you, is allowed to work.

Lev 17:10 I will turn against any of my people who eat blood. This also includes any gentiles living among you.

Lev 20:2 to say to the community of Israel: Death by stoning is the penalty for any citizens or gentiles in the country who sacrifice their children to the god Molech.

Lev 24:22 I am the LORD your God, and I demand equal justice both for you Israelites and for those gentiles who live among you.

Num 9:14 Anyone, including gentiles who live among you, can celebrate Passover, if they follow all the regulations.

Num 15:14 And the gentiles who live among you must also follow these rules.

Num 15:15 This law will never change. I am the LORD, and I consider all people the same, whether they are Israelites or gentiles living among you.

Num 15:26 the sin of everyone–both Israelites and gentiles among you–will be forgiven.

Num 19:10 The man who collects the ashes must wash his clothes, but will remain unclean until evening. This law must always be obeyed by the people of Israel and the gentiles living among them.

Deu 5:14 but the seventh day of the week belongs to me, your God. No one is to work on that day–not you, your children, your oxen or donkeys or any other animal, not even those gentiles who live in your towns. And don't make your slaves do any work.


abcfef () No. 5155210

>>5151615

Who said you do? But if you know what sin is you can stop doing it. Quit making excuses as to not keeping the Law. If you believe in the Word then you need to repent and try to live a righteous life.

Again you are trying to support a life of sin saying there is nothing you can do about it. That means nothing and again is a defeatest atititude.

Quit espousing evil Christian lies.


abcfef () No. 5155260

>>5151999

No one does. The promises were made to Israel not to Jews. To think the Jews are the chosen people is a result of mass brainwashing and ignorance. Again God loved Israel. Jesus hated the Jews.

Know that there is a difference. And again the media has seemed to lump the 2 together as one and they are not one. Judaism is 180 degrees opposite of the Israel system. The Talmud is NOT an explanation of the Torah. It is a go around.

Mat 23:15  "How horrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites!

Mat 23:16  "How horrible it will be for you, you blind guides!

Mat 23:19  You blind men!

Mat 23:33  "You snakes! You poisonous snakes! How can you escape being condemned to hell? 

Now tell me why preachers do not head the words of Jesus himself and perpetuate the lie that the Jews are the chosen people? Again, people do not understand Judaism and that is the problem. Even Jews do not understand Judaism!

"My people suffer for lack of knowledge". (Who are his people?)


abcfef () No. 5155312

>>5148484

The New Covenant simply means that Jesus is now in charge of sin atonement not the tribe of Levi. The word covenant also means agreement. If you do "A" then God does "B". This term New Covenant does not mean the removal of the Law.

For if there was no Law then no one would be a sinner.


3afe85 () No. 5155470

>>5143671

God is not finished with the nation Israel. He might be finished with you (Ge 12:3, Ro 1:28)—but he is not finished with the nation Israel.

Who Crucified Jesus? Adrian Rogers https://www.oneplace.com/ministries/love-worth-finding/listen/who-crucified-jesus-724371.html


abcfef () No. 5155495

Fellow anons and bible fags…

This is "the Law guy" here. I want you to know a couple things. As you see I document everything I say with scripture. None of what I say is opinion. My mission is to repent the Christian and the Jew out of their religions and come back to the WRITTEN word of God. There was never a Law for Jews and Jesus for the Christian. Faith + works is the answer. What is bad for 1 man is bad for another.

But some Jews will tell you that the Christian needs to stay away from the Law. In fact they will even pose as Christians in order to lead other Christians away from the Law. I have encountered this problem on other forums too. They do not want you practicing what they think is "theirs". So pay attention to the shilling. To try and keep someone from the Law is about as evil as it gets.

Also, I come across the "born again" Christian types who simply think that if you keep 1 word of the Law then you are going to hell since they believe Jesus died one day and did away with the Law and if you do not believe this then you have no faith in Jesus. I am not sure why this has been taught or who foisted it upon the Christian. If there was not Law then we would not be sinners and if we are not sinners then no one needs Jesus. The Law is in effect except for the Levite sacrifice Laws which are now moot. This is what changed.

When the bible says in Collossians 2:14 he hung the ordinances to the cross that does not mean Law. Ordinances are Jewish dogma. The entire point of Jesus and Paul's writings is to show you the contrast between Jewish law and Torah Law. But people miss this. When Paul says in Romans 2:13 you will be justified by the Law he means Mosaic Law. When Paul says in Galatians 3:11 no man is justified by the law he means Jewish oral law (Talmud). Until people get this the bible will never make sense and will seem in contradiction. and it causes people to use weird explanations to justify these contraditctons instead of realizing Paul talks about 2 sets of laws not one.

I don't mean to monopolize the board, but I have been challenged to support my stance and I love this and will answer the questions. If the BO wants to tone it down he can send me an email. Otherwise I will keep fighting the good fight.

One last thing…even though I am posed with questions, and the person asking them will never believe my answers, I do not answer for him most of the time. I answer for those with an open mind reading along. If I reach 5 people out of 100 then I have done my job as many do not heave ears to hear and eyes to see just yet.

Also, I would suggest you copy and paste these answers into Word for future referall.

3. Mat 13:9 The one having ears to hear, let him hear.

Mat 13:10 And coming near, the disciples said to Him, Why do You speak to them in parables?

Mat 13:11 And answering, He said to them, Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of Heaven, but it has not been given to those.


3afe85 () No. 5155654

On Trump's watch. Trust God's plan. https://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/under-new-law-twitter-could-now-decide-whether-people-are-allowed-to-own-guns-techno-fascism-is-here/


27699b () No. 5156461

>>5155495

If you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. (Romans 10:9-10)

This verse is the bottom line where salvation is concerned. In case you’ve never noticed, it’s always a matter of the heart with the Lord, and in this passage it’s clear that the central issue of salvation is a heart-felt belief in the Resurrection. Why is that? Because believing in the resurrection is how we’re justified. The Greek word for justified comes from a root meaning “to regard as innocent, faultless, guiltless.” So, if we confess (agree) that Jesus is our Lord and believe in our hearts that God raised Him from the dead He’ll regard us as innocent of all charges and qualify us for eternal life.

How Can This Be?

First, it helps to remember that Jesus didn’t die so that bad people could become good. He died so that dead people could live. When the Prodigal Son returned home, his joyful father didn’t exclaim, “My son was bad and is good again” but, “My son was dead and is alive again!” (Luke 15:32).

When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross (Colossians 2:13-14).

The wages of sin is death, so prior to becoming believers we were all dead in our sins. But when Jesus went to the cross He forgave all our sins, “nailing them to the cross” to signify that’s what He was dying for. The Greek word translated “all” in in Col. 2:13 literally means “each, every, any and all”. That means He agreed to accept the full punishment that was due us so that all the charges against us could be dropped and we could escape the death sentence. Simply put, He made it possible for our Father in Heaven to exclaim, “My children were dead and are alive again!”

And His act of sacrifice wasn’t only retro-active, paying back for all the sins of our pre-Christian lives, it was also pro-active, paying forward for all the sins we’ll commit during the rest of our lives too, because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy. (Hebr. 10:14) Put another way, He clothed Himself in our sin once so we could be clothed in His righteousness forever. (2 Cor. 5:21)

Prove it!

God’s eyes are too pure to look upon sin. (Haba 1:13) He literally can’t stand the sight of it. Discovering this fact about Him helps us understand the importance He places on believing in the resurrection. On the cross, Jesus became the physical embodiment of our sin. For the first time ever the Father had to turn away from His Son leaving Him alone and in anguish to cry, “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?”

Insulted, spat upon, beaten, whipped to within an inch of His life, and finally nailed to a cross, this was the only part of His entire ordeal that caused Him to cry out. The Earth shook, and the sun went dark as the Light of the World was extinguished (Matt 27:45-51).

Three days later Jesus rose from the dead to sit at the right hand of Majesty, and He’s sitting there today. That wouldn’t be possible if even one of our sins remained on Him. God’s eyes are too pure to look upon sin, remember? He’d have to turn away again and banish His Own Son from His Presence forever.

Since Jesus took all of our sins upon Himself, it follows that His death had to absolutely and forever pay the complete penalty for every one of them, or else He’d still be in the grave. So His resurrection is proof of ours. By believing in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you’re really telling God that you believe all the sins of your life were forgiven at the cross. With that alone you’ve inherited eternal life.


27699b () No. 5156485

>>5155312

"Removal of the Law" is a red herring.

You're a Judaizer.

Accept that fact, and know that you will fail to keep the Law perfectly, as all people have failed to keep the Law perfectly, but for Christ Jesus.

Whom you do not know.


27699b () No. 5156514

>>5155312

>The New Covenant simply means that Jesus is now in charge of sin atonement not the tribe of Levi.

This could not be further from the truth.

Jeremiah 31

“Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their [i]hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

The unpardonable sin is making the death of Christ Jesus mean nothing to you, and not believing in the bodily resurrection of God the Son.

Repent, and be saved.


27699b () No. 5156560

>>5151197

>And for the LAST time there is no such thing as "missing the mark" to define sin

You're going to stop lying about that now, then? Good.

Sin, hattat in the Hebrew, means a missing of a standard, mark, or goal.

The word that is used most frequently is hamartia, missing the mark. It is the most comprehensive term for explaining sin. Paul used the verb hamartano when he wrote, “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). God has a high and holy standard of what is right, and so long as man follows the Divine standard he will see himself as he truly exists in God’s eyes. The flat statement of the Almighty is that all men have fallen far short of God’s required standard. It is the popular and common practice of men to create their own standards; however, God has established His standard of perfection for entry into Heaven, and all men have “missed the mark” as an archer’s arrow would fall to the ground because it fell short of its target.


27699b () No. 5156568

>>5151076

So you agree that Abraham was not found righteous because he followed the Law of God, but because he believed God, and was therefore found righteous by God.

So why don't you do the same, again?


27699b () No. 5156609

>>5156568

Oh, and since you think you have convinced people that you "use bible verses" to make your points, which you do not, here's the bible verse that plainly says how Abraham was found righteous by God:

Galatians 3

Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?— 6 just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” 7 Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.

To a reasonable lurker, note that God justifies Gentiles by their faith, not by their inability to follow God's Law perfectly.

Because as James notes:

James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.

Only Jesus kept the Law perfectly; only Jesus deserves to be in heaven.

Not this Judaizer Anon.


27699b () No. 5156770

>>5155190

> the Law take you OUT of sin.

Wrong again.

Romans 5

Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound.

Ephesians 2

For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity.

Philipians 3

Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead.

This is Paul calling you a self-righteous hypocrite, in case you cannot understand the bible. But how could you? You think you can follow God's Laws, which only God can follow.

You think you are already like God.


27699b () No. 5156983

What is the Cult of the Seventh Day Adventist?

In 1818 William Miller announced to the world that in 25 years (March 1844) Jesus Christ would return to the earth. At the height of his ministry, Miller had gathered some 50,000 followers, who had also become known as "Adventists." When March 1844 came and went with no sign of Jesus Christ having returned, Miller recalculated the new date to October 22, 1844. When Jesus did not return on October 22, 1844, the entire Millerite movement collapsed as his followers' Christian faith were destroyed. Miller revamped his doctrine to say that Christ had indeed returned, but that Miller had not understood that Christ first had to come to the "Heavenly Sanctuary," which He is now busy cleaning. Once Jesus has cleansed things up in heaven, He would be coming back to the earth.

The remnant that bought into this lie formed the Advent Church and in 1845 William Miller became its first president. The name was later changed to Seventh Day Adventists and after the death of Miller in 1849 a new false prophet came on the scene, this time a woman, Ellen G. White. At the age of 13, Ellen was taken to a meeting where William Miller spoke and was converted to the Adventist faith.

The "cult" believes that this man, William Miller, did not rape this 13 year old girl, Ellen White.

That's some deep indoctrination, since the muslim cult admits that it's 54 year old leader raped a 9 year old.


27699b () No. 5157003

>>5156983

On August 30, 1846 Ellen married James White, who had been ordained into the Adventist church in 1843. Her ascension as a "prophetess" in the Seventh Day Adventist Church had now begun. During her years as the "seer" for the SDA church, she prophesied a number of predictions, which did not come true. One of the most blatant false prophecies she made was when she predicted before the American Civil war, that the Union would not be preserved but that the United States would be divided, slavery would not be abolished but England would intervene and declare war on the United States. Any student of history knows differently. But, like so many other false movements, these failed prophecies are swept under the rug and most Seventh Day Adventists today do not even know about them.

That's some deep denial right there. Sure wouldn't want to be a modern day SDA following this false priestess/prophetess into hellfire!


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3afe85 () No. 5157505

>>5156485

>"Removal of the Law"

God's law is perpetual and ongoing (Mt 5:18). When did God nail do not murder or do not commit adultery to the cross? Mal 4:4-6, Mt 24:14

The law is for the lawless (1 Ti 1:9). That includes the Don, adulterer-in-chief, too.


27699b () No. 5157826

>>5157505

>When did God nail do not murder or do not commit adultery to the cross?

Colosians 2

And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us.And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

That's when.

My sins were nailed to the cross as offenses against Christ Jesus, and I accepted the pardon that His death purchased.

You're trying to buy your own pardon.

You will fail.


27699b () No. 5157959

>>5155495

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.


abcfef () No. 5158048

>>5157959

Did I ever say I have no sin? What are you talking about? Only Jesus had no sin.

Are you making a point or just quoting the bible?


abcfef () No. 5158090

>>5157826

First of all let's look at that verse in the King James bible shall we?…

Col 2:14  Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 

Who writes hand writing? Men do. What are ordinances? Are the the Law? Let's examine the word. It comes form a Greek word. What is that word?…

dogma

dog'-mah

From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical): - decree, ordinance.

Ordinances there is from the word "Dogma". Decrees of men. Doctrines. NOT OF GOD.

As I tried to make you see Jesus nailed DOGMA to the stake. Jewish dogma. All dogma. Even Christian dogma.

Unfortunately your perspective is taught weekly in churches and you were misled. Dogma is not the written Law.


abcfef () No. 5158110

>>5156770

Again, you do not understand what you are reading. As I posted below the word "ordinances" is NOT WRITTEN LAW. It comes from the Greek word Dogma…

dogma

dog'-mah

From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical): - decree, ordinance.

Ordinances there is from the word "Dogma". Decrees of men. Doctrines. NOT OF GOD.

As I tried to make you see Jesus nailed DOGMA to the stake. Jewish dogma. All dogma. Even Christian dogma.


abcfef () No. 5158130

>>5156609

Again, on Abraham…

Gen 26:5  Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. 


27699b () No. 5158194

>>5158048

You say you are following God's Law.

You therefore say you are without sin.


27699b () No. 5158211

>>5158090

Gee, the KJV and the NKJV say the exact same thing.

Because you do not know, when Rome crucified someone, they put the capital offense on the cross to tell people why they are being crucified.

Jesus' said "King of the Jews". That sufficed. That's a capital crime in an occupied Roman territory.

But God made Jesus sin for us; Jesus took our sin onto Himself.

That's the part you don't get.

Because you're trying to buy your way into heaven with your "righteousness" by "following God's Law".


27699b () No. 5158220

>>5158110

And again, you do not understand Roman crucifixion.

Or your own death penalty for your own sins.


27699b () No. 5158241

>>5158130

>Gen 26:5  Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Once again revealing your ignorance of the Law of Faith, demonstrated by Abraham, the Father of Faith.

But instead of following the Father of Faith, Abraham, you think you're following the Law of God.

You're literally practicing unrigheousness.


3afe85 () No. 5158309

>>5157826 [God's law is perpetual and ongoing (Mt 5:18). When did God nail do not murder or do not commit adultery to the cross? Mal 4:4-6, Mt 24:14]

The law is for the lawless (1 Ti 1:9). If you are not in Christ, you remain under wrath (Jn 3:36).


27699b () No. 5158316

>>5158130

J. Gresham Machen, in his Notes on Galatians, drew out, so very nicely, a careful application of the principle argument of Galatians to the church today when he wrote:

The particular form of merit which they induced men to seek was the mertit of keeping the Law of Moses, particularly the cermonial law. At first sight, that fact might seem to destroy the usefulness of the epistle for the present day; for we of today are in no danger in desiring to keep Jewish fasts and feasts. But a little consideration will show that that is not at all the case. The really essential thing about the Judaizers’ contention was not found in those particular “works of the law” that they urged upon the Galatians as being one of the grounds of salvation, but in the fact that the urged any works at all. The really serious error into which they fell was not that they carried the ceremonial law over into the new dispensation, whither God did not intend it to be carried, but that they preached a religion of human merit as over against a religion of divine grace.

So the error of the Judaizers is a very modern error indeed, as well as a very ancient error. It is found in the modern church wherever men seek salvation by “surrender” instead of by faith, or by their own character instead of by the imputed righteousness of Christ, or by “making Christ master in the life” instead of by trusting in His redeeming blood. In particular, it is found wherever men say that “the real essentials” of Christianity are love, justice, mercy, and other virtues, as contrasted with the great doctrines of God’s word. These are all just different ways of exalting the merit of man over against the cross of Christ; they are all of them attacks upon the very heart and core of the Christian religion. And, against all of them the mighty polemic of this epistle to the Galatians is turned. 1

1. Skilton, John H. ed. Machen’s Notes on Galatians (Nutley, NJ: Presbyterian and Reformed Publications, 1977) p. 10


3afe85 () No. 5158329

>>5158048

>Only Jesus had no sin.

Not according to the evil pope (Jud 11).


1d0af4 () No. 5158747

>>5158211

yeah its such a crime that the roman authority of the area, Pilate, said Jesus didnt deserve to be crucified but the jews insisted.

and you’re up to 70 posts now? 1/3 of the bread is you misleading, lecturefagging, misusing scripture and glowing like crazy.

which explains why you werent in the first 5 biblefag threads but showed up as soon as we focused on (((Pharisees))).


27699b () No. 5158784

>>5158747

Pilate said he found no fault in Jesus.

The Jewish leaders blackmailed Pilate into crucifying Jesus anyways, as they would snitch on Pilate to Caesar and say that Pilate was allowing a man to call himself King.

What does that have to do with you choosing to go to hell?


27699b () No. 5158793

>>5158747

Or, if you were computer literate, you might imagine a scenario where our modem went down, we had to get a new modem, and were assigned a new IP.

kek


abcfef () No. 5159418

>>5158316

He is incorrect. Sorry to tell you. He does not "get" Paul. Many other "Scholars" do not get Paul. In Galatians Paul is explaining the difference of oral law vs. Mosaic law. Galatians 3:11 is NOT Torah Law.


abcfef () No. 5159481

>>5158211

Jesus paid the PENALTY for sin. He took on sin atonement. Sin atonement changed from the tribe of Levi to the tribe of Judah at Jesus' death.

What was the penalty for sin? The shedding of blood. Since we do not need to do this there is no need for Levites. Seen any lately? The building of the Jew's new temple steps on Jesus death.

However, Jesus did not remove sin from the world. Who told you this?

He removed the penalty. But you are going to be judged by your works. And works are measured by the Law.

Heb 10:26  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 


27699b () No. 5159515

>>5159418

You're right. Paul never talked about the law.

kek

Despite being a rabbi. Despite being on the Sanhedrin. Despite being an expert in the Law. Despite being taught by Gamaliel.

Paul never said this, in Acts 22:

Acts 22:3 “I am indeed a Jew, born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, taught according to the strictness of our fathers’ law, and was zealous toward God as you all are today.

By the way, what prize do you win if you "keep the Law"?


27699b () No. 5159530

>>5159481

Bullshit.

Atonement is covering up.

Jesus' death is propitiation not only to we who believe, but for people like you too.

1 John 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

That said, the forgiveness of sins is not salvation. The forgiveness of sins is necessary for the free gift of salvation to be possible.


1d0af4 () No. 5159712

>>5158784

>u choosing to go to hell

holy shit, u project hard!! keep it up! I love the lulz.

The hypocrisy is incredible with you. You go bizerk lecturing us about criticizing the pharisees, meanwhile you’re telling anons they’re going to hell. Incredibly hilarious shilling! You have reached Pharisee levels of hypocrisy. Congrats lecturefag!


074604 () No. 5159737

man the Talmud is evil.


27699b () No. 5159846

>>5159712

I don't, actually. I just point out that they were better people than you were, and in order to get into heaven, you have to be better people than they were.

Most people don't like hyposcisy.


27699b () No. 5159889

>>5159737

As are all man-made religions. Religion comes from religio, which is a system of bondage. Jesus didn't come to start a religion; he came to set men free.


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1d0af4 () No. 5161901

>>5146649

Kek. exactly. (((They))) scurrred.

lecturefag is really going nuts rn.


074604 () No. 5161917

There’s nothing like this in the bible.


8d02d2 () No. 5162538

>>5155210

No one becomes sinless in the flesh. No one.

Here is Jesus' definition of defilement:

Matthew 15:

19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

Paul said the exact same thing for himself in Romans 7:7-13 and concluded from that honest exercise of examining his thoughts, that evil was in fact present with him. Romans 7:21

The evil present withIN no man follows the law, not matter how good they paste up their flesh tombs. Evil thoughts transpire against the LAW and DEFILE ALL, inclusive of Apostles.

A sinner with hypocrite cloth on is still a sinner.

Jesus says the man who tells the truth about his state of being a sinner is justified, rather than those who claim they are not like other men.

Luke 18:

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Jesus isn't interested in liars or hypocrites.

Paul said we are no different than any other given sinner:

Romans 3:

9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

Paul took it one step further and claimed to be the chief of sinners, after salvation, just to prove the point of fact. 1 Tim. 1:15

I appreciate his honesty, contrary to common liars and hypocrites.


8d02d2 () No. 5162568

>>5155190

The written law proves us all to be sinners.

I accept the law, ever jot and tittle, fully, as applicable to this proof of fact and agree it stands precisely for that reason.


95ca71 () No. 5162878

>>5159515

Yes Paul was born a Jew. And he QUIT! Jesus made him realisze what he was following was a sin! Why is Judaism (the oral law) a sin you ask?

Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Judaism has added to the Torah. Simple as that.

Now Paul had an awakening. And he told the Pharisees where to put it. And he paid dearly for it as they had him beaten 4 times. ("I received stripes"). Paul then tried to do what I am telling you - explain to the people the difference in oral law and written law and that Jesus taught the commandments and Law. And this seems to be very difficult for people to grasp.

For example "Do we need to be circumcized to keep the Sabbath" people ask. "Do we need to wash our hands like the Jews"? To explain the differences in oral law and written take a scholar. And I am going to show you some differences very soon (and quit arguing with Christians, Time to show the Jews the things THEY ALSO need to stop doing). Christians, with your 3 headed God (not true), your eating wafers, easter, etc.

But let me get back to Paul and then answer your question. As Paul said…

Act 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

How can Paul write this and then tell you to not do the Law elsewhere? Again, Paul is trying to explain 2 DIFFERENT SETS OF LAWS. "You foolish Galatians". They had a hard time getting it too. Maybe you are from there who knows.

We are going to be judged by our works and sins in this life. What is our goal? As we read in Rev 20 to be priests, kings, and rulers over nations with the Messiah at his return for his 1,000 year reign. We will be resurrected to the court of Messiah and dwell with him in Mt. Zion. From Mt .Zion THE LAW (not Christianity) will flow to the world. Wars will be put down. Man will not raise arms again. These are those that followed the Law, repented, and were in synch with God's wishes.

Everyone else will be resurrected from the dead after the 1,000 year reign and judged by what they did in life or by their works. And since their works were not based on Torah they missed the 1,000 year reign. This group includes good hearted Christians that were misled, misled Jews, Atheists that are "good people", and the pygmies etc tht never saw a bible and never heard the name Jesus Christ. Thank God these people are not judged by southern baptists since for the "Crime" of not knowing who Jesus is they say all these people are doomed! What a bunch of naive arrogant bastards.

There is a another judgment possible for people raised in the 2nd resurrection. That they are judged to be incorrigible and are put back to everlasting death and the permanent separation from God.

To summarize, keep the Law and repent. Walk in synch with God and you may be in the 1st resurrection. If you do not you will be in the 2nd one.

Supporting verses…

Rev 20:4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."

And then after the 1,000 years…

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

and the promise…

Isa 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

Isa 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

Isa 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.


95ca71 () No. 5162906

>>5159846

No not true. I sued to think that too. But since the Pharisees are not practicing the Law they are at the bottom of the heap not the top! It is very easy to be more righteous than them actually.


95ca71 () No. 5162955

>>5162568

SO WHAT IF IT DOES? What is your point? Should we not try to walk in righteousness that we might fall every now and then? Or just throw ourselves at Jesus feet and beg?

You Christians have 10,000 excuses to not learn the Law. The devil is laughing his ass off.

And you people have not even read the Law yet you folks comment all about it like you are experts! It is not religion.

Do not eat that fish!

Do not have sex with your mother.

Simple basic things always confused with Jewish religious stuff.


95ca71 () No. 5162993

>>5162538

You are an evil person! You are trying to make us believe the Law is not important and we can sin all we want to if we love Jesus. Same thing the devil told Eve in the garden! SHAME on you people.

So what if no one becomes sinless. Only Jesus was sinless. But we are to learn his ways.

AND YOU FOLKS DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT SIN IS! You are talking out your ass about a word you have no clue what it means.

You people are delusional.


8d02d2 () No. 5163668

>>5162993

"You are an evil person!"

Titus 3:2

To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

I believe the Law is fully applicable to all people, precisely to prove all under sin. That proving doesn't stop after salvation.

All people are forgiven of sins. The devil however who is intimately involved with every sin of everyone (1 John 3:8) is not and never will be forgiven for these same sins.

Forgiveness therefore doesn't extend to "all" of what we are currently, in the flesh. There is the person, and there is the opposition party withIN their heart that is not them. Mark 4:15

Even in your petty ranting, I don't consider it you as God's doing the ranting, at all.

It's the resistor in your own heart, being drawn to the surface by the Word of God, to reveal itself.

and fwiw, I believe all people are saved by God in Christ. 1 Tim. 4:10, Jews included. Romans 11:26-32. This fact really ticks off the devil "in people."


8d02d2 () No. 5163836

>>5162955

I love God's Laws and Every Word of God. Every Word is applicable to every man. Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4, yes even the BAD NASTY WORDS we really try to heap on other people so we can (falsely) think they're going to hell, but we're not cause we so (equally falsely) righteous.

IF His Word tells us the truth, that we are sinners, is that the fault of the Law/Word?

Nope.

The Law is Perfect. We're not. And there is a scriptural reason provided for why we're not Perfect that does not involve "the person." Mark 4:15, Romans 11:32.

Not matter how much phony law keepers claim they follow the laws, the flesh remains against the Spirit, and vice versa:

Galatians 5:17

For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Obviously the flesh doesn't care to hear the facts of scripture, does it?

Sin=

Transgression of Law. 1 John 3:4

Anything not of faith. Romans 14:23

Of the devil. 1 John 3:8

Universal to all mankind. Romans 3:9

Jeremiah 17:9

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Oh no! Surely not "my" heart? Sorry, yeah, yours too.


8d02d2 () No. 5163961

>>5162878

Don't you realize the "end time" is the end of the devil and his messengers?

Sometimes people who study eschatology miss the real easy stuff.

Matt. 25:

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

People tend to forget who is who, because 2 different parties walk in the same pair of shoes:

Mark 4:

15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

See that yet? There are the people, and Satan who enters their hearts. 2 entirely different parties, standing there, looking you in the eyes.

Matthew 13:49

So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

That ain't talking about severing your unsaved neighbor and not you. It's severing all of us from the devil and his messengers.

And by the way, NO ONE always does sheep works. When they don't they are doing GOAT WORKS.

Surprise!


8d02d2 () No. 5164013

How does Satan "flee" from us?

When we see that his thoughts are not our thoughts.

God luck making the cut.


95ca71 () No. 5164475

Tomorrow I am going to explain to the JEWS whey the oral law is out of synch with God and a waste of time. Yet some Jews are so wrapped up in the Talmud and Kabbalah they have lost reality.

Let's look at a preface for our discussion with the Jews tomorrow. A bunch of Jews came up to Jesus and, well, let's read what happened. Did Jesus sin or not? What were they accusing him of violating and were they correct?…

Luk 14:1 And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him.

Luk 14:2 And, behold, there was a certain man before him which had the dropsy.

Luk 14:3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day?

Luk 14:4 And they held their peace. And he took him, and healed him, and let him go;


95ca71 () No. 5164508

>>5164475

And here again. Did Jesus sin?…

Mar 7:1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.

Mar 7:2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.

Mar 7:3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.

Mar 7:4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.

Mar 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?

Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


87e589 () No. 5165720

>>5164475

>Yet some Jews are so wrapped up in the Talmud and Kabbalah they have lost reality.

I'll keep repeating this so we don't lose all compassion: Nobody has been Jewed harder than the Jews.

w/o the victim/supremacist narrative being believed by most Jews, (((they))) can't pull off their plan for genocide and global domination.


96b302 () No. 5166201

I am Jewish, no longer asleep and it is so easy to see how something like that can happen. We see it daily now in many areas, and cognitive dissonance wont let you believe . If awake and already Have Faith I dont see the big deal & my brother is Orthodox but asleep & programmed


074604 () No. 5168664

>>5159530

>>5158220

>>5156770

>>5156609

ID

>27699b

your posts are like nails on a chalkboard. You are the definition of a bickerfag shill and your purpose here is to turn any lurqers away by having them think every biblefag is a trifling pos know-it-all.

you are fake and gay

you criticize the hell out of anons but then tell us we are going to hell for criticizing (((pharisees)))? Could you be any moar obvious of a shill?

try harder mossad


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87e589 () No. 5170437

>>5166201

>I am Jewish, no longer asleep and it is so easy to see how something like that can happen. We see it daily now in many areas, and cognitive dissonance wont let you believe . If awake and already Have Faith I dont see the big deal & my brother is Orthodox but asleep & programmed

I post to expose Jewish supremacism & the history of Abrahamic religions b/c I believe that unless the Jews turn from this, it will result in their utter destruction, and I have good friends who are Jewish & they don't deserve that. If they knew what we knew, they would be like us, they're just not there yet.

Just keep asking your brother small questions. Questions beg answers. Don't engage in arguments, just hit and run.

They itch like a splinter in your mind, and don't stop until you answer them.

Think of the parable of the mustard seed. Questions are like that.

God bless you and your brother, anon.


f09060 () No. 5170578

>>>5162538

>>No one becomes sinless in the flesh. No one.

The Christian isn't sinless. He sins less (1 Jn 3:9).


27699b () No. 5171114

>>5170578

You can't be "less like God" and "even less like God". You're either God, or you're not like God, no matter how hard you try. Christians have no more power to "never sin again" after being born again than we did before; and while we would expect a person to "sin less" after being saved, to "never sin again" would be the same as "never sinning ever" and "not needing a savior".


27699b () No. 5171130

>>5168664

You're going to hell, with the worst of the pharisees, because you are dead. Not because you "criticize" the pharisees. You're dead, and you don't even know it. And until you know it, you cannot be born again.


27699b () No. 5171150

>>5162993

Did the Law exist before Jesus came to earth?

Then why did Jesus come to earth?


27699b () No. 5171161

>>5162906

Have you ever kept one single Passover in the Temple in Jerusalem?

No?

Then on that one basis alone, all of the Pharisees in the bible kept the Law infinitely better than you have.

Infinitely.


27699b () No. 5171175

>>5162878

Paul did not quit being a Jew. Saul did. Because he was confronted with the God whose believers he was killing, and realized that the God whose believers he was killing was the God he said he worshiped, but did not.

Paul was reborn in the Spirit that day on the road to Damascus; Saul died.


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27699b () No. 5171197

>>5162568

Yup. To set the standard for a lost and depraved and wicked race trying to "be like God" through their knowledge of good and evil. A standard only Jesus met, and a standard that only Jesus could meet.


27699b () No. 5171247

>>5164475

I think the heroic and massive effort by the Jews to follow God's Law drove them mad, and their great-grandchildren in captivity in Babylon looked for a different way out. And thought they found it. All they found was their own disobedience and self-righteousness. They discarded the Law of Moses, and stopped looking for a Messiah to save them. And when the Messiah came to save them, on the day he said he would arrive, they were not looking for him, did not accept him as Messiah, and rejected him completely.

This is the condemnation of the world; that the light came into the world, but men preferred darkness, for their hearts were dark, and their deeds were dark.


27699b () No. 5173220

Where did all the Jew haters and the Judaizers go, I wonder.


074604 () No. 5173535

>>5171130

you sure are a triggered littlw mossad faggot, arent you?

post moar homo. we love the glow.


1d0af4 () No. 5173590

>>5173220

because anyone criticizing the Pharisees like Christ did is a jew hater? Your low brow insults are lame. I dont hate the jews. The only people posting jew hatred and spiteful stuff is mossad attempting to subvert the entire JQ discussion.

You don’t even tride to hide your allegiance.

>>5173535

>>5168664

exactly. Look how the shill reacted to you calling him out. Priceless.


27699b () No. 5173687

>>5173535

>>5173590

(Wasn't even any bait on the hook. Your employers should really reconsider your employment.)


27699b () No. 5173710

>>5173687

Sorry, typo.

(Your employer should really consider your employment.)


abcfef () No. 5174723

>>5171170

>There have been many covenants and Laws over time. Much more than Mosaic Law.

>

>Adam and Eve had Law. We do not know what they were, but they violated them or there would have been no sin in the "garden".

>

>After Adam and Eve God gave us the Noahide Laws in Gen 9. And it is these Laws today's Jews want to put the Gentile under if they have their way.

>

>Then we have the Mosaic Law which was for EVERYBODY and defines sin through today. The reason YOU and I are sinners is because we break the Mosaic Law. Me not so much anymore, but Christians daily.

>

>Then this Mosaic Law slightly changed after Jesus died since the need for animal sacrifice was done away with and also since the atonement for sin was moved to the tribe of Judah and taken from Levi. In fact this is what the New Covenant is of today. A simple change in sin atonement after Jesus death. However, Jesus death did not remove sin from the world. It changed the procedure for atonement. (And his death does not mean you can sin while imagining him smiling down at you either).

>

>And finally there will be another covenant for those raised from the dead after the coming of the Messiah. As we read…

>

>Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

>

>Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

>

>Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

>

>As most Christians read the NT and believe Abraham was a man of faith, I always point out that he kept the Law. His Law. Which would have been the Noahide Law I guess for his time period. And you do know Abraham was NOT a Jew or Israelite correct? He was an Amorite. Why the Jews back claim him I do not know.

>>5171150


abcfef () No. 5174794

>>5171175

There was no reason the change Paul's name to from Saul. the reason the KJ bible did is to make you think he became Christian or some other reason. Jesus did not change his name. It just changed magically.

Again, re-read what Paul wrote…

Act 24:14  But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: 

Rom 2:13  For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 

Paul taught and kept the written Law. He taught against oral law. Unfortunately the bible do not preface which laws Paul is talking about.


abcfef () No. 5174863

>>5171161

That is such a stupid assertion I do not even know where to start.

Let me remind you we are going to be judged by our works. The fact that there is no Temple is well known to God. That fact that I keep the Passover according to the Law, NOT A SEDER, will also be known to God.

If you are a JEW and keep the Passover Seder, designed to turn you away from the true meaning of Passover, I hope God has pity for you on your judgment day.

If you are a Christian and keep Easter, designed to turn you away from the true meaning of Passover, I hope God has pity for you on your judgment day.


27699b () No. 5174871

>>5174723

Daily Reminder that the Jew hating shills call Abraham an Amonite without evidence.

That is all.


27699b () No. 5174969

>>5174794

>Jesus did not change his name

So what? His name changed from Saul, the persecutor of the Christians, to Paul, the apostle. Who said Jesus changed his name? Jesus changed his heart; Jesus changed his nature; Jesus changed his life; Jesus changed his future; Jesus changed his eternal destination.

You really want to quibble about why he went by "Paul" to the Greeks, instead of the more Jewish "Saul"? that's the important part of the story?

kek

Let me remind you that Jesus IS the God of Saul/Paul's fathers; Jesus is YHWH. Written of hundreds of times in the law and the prophets.

As to hearing and doing, you have heard that you need to be saved, but you have not done it. If you believed without seeing, as Jesus said people would to "Doubting" Thomas, you would be blessed.

As it is, you and all of the other Judaizers are cursed under the Law (of sin and death) and have no idea what the Law of Faith is.


abcfef () No. 5174970

>>5171247

Following God's Law IS NOT MASSIVE AND HEROIC. What is massive about this?…

1. Do not have sex with your mother?

2. Do not eat unclean meat.

3. Do not eat any manner of blood.

What is hard about this? Since you have not studied the Law you are making incorrect assumptions based on the word "Law". And you folks confuse Torah Law for all people with Jewish Talmudic Law. It is Jewish Law no one can keep.

Have you ever read the rules for the sabbath and compared the Torah requirements to the Jewish requirements? The 2 are night and day.

Jesus came to TURN THEM BACK TO THE LAW OF MOSES. It is not they they did not accept him per se, it is that they did not accept what he was telling them about what they were doing and how they are being perceived! This is all about sin and Law.

And Jesus DID NOT COME AS MESSIAH EITHER. He will be, but he came to repent them back to the Law amongst 5 or 6 other reasons he said he came. He did not come close to fulfilling half the requirements of Messiah.

His light is simple. The Law. His gospel is simple. The Law. He and Paul had nothing to do with Christianity.


27699b () No. 5174983

>>5174863

You can start by admitting you have never kept one single Passover in the Temple in Jerusalem. How 'bout that.

Numbers 9:13 But the man that is clean, and is not in a journey, and forbeareth to keep the passover, even the same soul shall be cut off from among his people: because he brought not the offering of the Lord in his appointed season, that man shall bear his sin.


27699b () No. 5174990

>>5174970

Have you accomplished it?


27699b () No. 5175000

>>5174970

Have you ever hated anyone?

Ever called anyone a fool?

Ever lusted after a woman/man?

Ever been jealous?

Ever coveted anything someone else owned?

Have you always kept the Sabbath perfectly?

Have you?


27699b () No. 5175093

>>5174970

Did my penis touch and penetrate my mother? Yes, it did. Not many C sections back in the day. Guess I sinned in that way.

Have I ever eaten "unclean meat", whatever that is? Sure, I guess.

Have I ever "eaten" any blood? Sure, all the time. Who eats their steak well done?

If it's not hard, why am I 0/3?


27699b () No. 5175118

>>5174970

Maybe you just don't know the Law. Maybe that's it. Here, I'll post the 613 commandments in what, 7 posts, and you can tell me which of them you have kept perfectly, as the Father in heaven is perfect.

Knowing that violating the least of them, is violating all of the Law, per James. You know, the James of the bible, who wrote James, and came from Mary and Joseph. You know, Jesus' mom and adopted dad.

G-d

1. To know that G-d exists (Ex. 20:2; Deut. 5:6) (CCA1). See What Do Jews Believe?.

2. Not to entertain the idea that there is any god but the Eternal (Ex. 20:3) (CCN8). See What Do Jews Believe?.

3. Not to blaspheme (Ex. 22:27; in Christian texts, Ex. 22:28), the penalty for which is death (Lev. 24:16) (negative).

4. To hallow G-d's name (Lev. 22:32) (CCA5). See The Name of G-d.

5. Not to profane G-d's name (Lev . 22:32) (CCN155). See The Name of G-d.

6. To know that G-d is One, a complete Unity (Deut. 6:4) (CCA2). See What Do Jews Believe?.

7. To love G-d (Deut. 6:5) (CCA3). See What Do Jews Believe?.

8. To fear Him reverently (Deut. 6:13; 10:20) (CCA4).

9. Not to put the word of G-d to the test (Deut. 6:16) (negative).

10. To imitate His good and upright ways (Deut. 28:9) (CCA6).

Torah

11. To honor the old and the wise (Lev. 19:32) (CCA17).

12. To learn Torah and to teach it (Deut. 6:7) (CCA14). See Torah.

13. To cleave to those who know Him (Deut. 10:20) (the Talmud states that cleaving to scholars is equivalent to cleaving to Him) (CCA16).

14. Not to add to the commandments of the Torah, whether in the Written Law or in its interpretation received by tradition (Deut. 13:1) (CCN159). See Torah.

15. Not to take away from the commandments of the Torah (Deut. 13:1) (CCN160). See Torah.

16. That every person shall write a scroll of the Torah for himself (Deut. 31:19) (CCA15). See Torah.


27699b () No. 5175178

>>5174970

Signs and Symbols

17. To circumcise the male offspring (Gen. 17:12; Lev. 12:3) (CCA47) See Brit Milah: Circumcision.

18. To put tzitzit on the corners of clothing (Num. 15:38) (CCA10). See Tzitzit and Tallit.

19. To bind tefillin on the head (Deut. 6:8) (CCA9). See Tefillin.

20. To bind tefillin on the arm (Deut. 6:8) (CCA8). See Tefillin.

21. To affix the mezuzah to the doorposts and gates of your house (Deut. 6:9) (CCA12). See Mezuzah.

Prayer and Blessings

22. To pray to G-d (Ex. 23:25; Deut. 6:13) (according to the Talmud, the word "serve" in these verses refers to prayer) (CCA7). See Prayers and Blessings; Jewish Liturgy.

23. To read the Shema in the morning and at night (Deut. 6:7) (CCA11). See Jewish Liturgy.

24. To recite grace after meals (Deut. 8:10) (CCA13). See Birkat Ha-Mazon: Grace After Meals

25. Not to lay down a stone for worship (Lev. 26:1) (CCN161).

Love and Brotherhood

26. To love all human beings who are of the covenant (Lev. 19:18) (CCA60). See Love and Brotherhood.

27. Not to stand by idly when a human life is in danger (Lev. 19:16) (CCN82). See Love and Brotherhood.

28. Not to wrong any one in speech (Lev. 25:17) (CCN48). See Speech and Lashon Ha-Ra.

29. Not to carry tales (Lev. 19:16) (CCN77). See Speech and Lashon Ha-Ra.

30. Not to cherish hatred in one's heart (Lev. 19:17) (CCN78). See Love and Brotherhood.

31. Not to take revenge (Lev. 19:18) (CCN80).

32. Not to bear a grudge (Lev. 19:18) (CCN81).

33. Not to put any Jew to shame (Lev. 19:17) (CCN79).

34. Not to curse any other Israelite (Lev. 19:14) (by implication: if you may not curse those who cannot hear, you certainly may not curse those who can) (CCN45).

35. Not to give occasion to the simple-minded to stumble on the road (Lev. 19:14) (this includes doing anything that will cause another to sin) (CCN76).

36. To rebuke the sinner (Lev. 19:17) (CCA72).

37. To relieve a neighbor of his burden and help to unload his beast (Ex. 23:5) (CCA70). See Love and Brotherhood.

38. To assist in replacing the load upon a neighbor's beast (Deut. 22:4) (CCA71). See Love and Brotherhood.

39. Not to leave a beast, that has fallen down beneath its burden, unaided (Deut. 22:4) (CCN183). See Love and Brotherhood.

The Poor and Unfortunate

40. Not to afflict an orphan or a widow (Ex. 22:21) (CCN51).

41. Not to reap the entire field (Lev. 19:9; Lev. 23:22) (negative) (CCI6).

42. To leave the unreaped corner of the field or orchard for the poor (Lev. 19:9) (affirmative) (CCI1).

43. Not to gather gleanings (the ears that have fallen to the ground while reaping) (Lev. 19:9) (negative) (CCI7).

44. To leave the gleanings for the poor (Lev. 19:9) (affirmative) (CCI2).

45. Not to gather ol'loth (the imperfect clusters) of the vineyard (Lev. 19:10) (negative) (CCI8).

46. To leave ol'loth (the imperfect clusters) of the vineyard for the poor (Lev. 19:10; Deut. 24:21) (affirmative) (CCI3).

47. Not to gather the peret (grapes) that have fallen to the ground (Lev. 19:10) (negative) (CCI9).

48. To leave peret (the single grapes) of the vineyard for the poor (Lev. 19:10) (affirmative) (CCI4).

49. Not to return to take a forgotten sheaf (Deut. 24:19) This applies to all fruit trees (Deut. 24:20) (negative) (CC10).

50. To leave the forgotten sheaves for the poor (Deut. 24:19-20) (affirmative) (CCI5).

51. Not to refrain from maintaining a poor man and giving him what he needs (Deut. 15:7) (CCN62). See Tzedakah: Charity.

52. To give charity according to one's means (Deut. 15:11) (CCA38). See Tzedakah: Charity.

Treatment of Gentiles

53. To love the stranger (Deut. 10:19) (CCA61). See Love and Brotherhood.

54. Not to wrong the stranger in speech (Ex. 22:20) (CCN49).

55. Not to wrong the stranger in buying or selling (Ex. 22:20) (CCN50).

56. Not to intermarry with gentiles (Deut. 7:3) (CCN19). See Interfaith Marriages.

57. To exact the debt of an alien (Deut. 15:3) (affirmative).

58. To lend to an alien at interest (Deut. 23:21) According to tradition, this is mandatory (affirmative).

You know what, sport, you let me know if you've kept all 58 of these perfectly, and if so, maybe we'll look at some more.

http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm


abcfef () No. 5180215

>>5164508

pt. 1

𝐖𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐇𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐬

Mar 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?

Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Under what terms are we to wash our hands? God told us in the bible when we were required to wash simple as that. Even Israel wandered the desert. Where did they wash? Due to “fear” marketing and making us think we need to wash all the time we wash way too much. When did God tell us when to wash?

𝐓𝐨𝐫𝐚𝐡 𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐰𝐚𝐬𝐡 𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐬

Ritual Purity and Impurity (when to wash)

DEFILE, v.t.

To make unclean; to render foul or dirty; in a general sense.

1. Lev 11:27 And any going on its paws among all the living things which go on all four, they are unclean to you; anyone who touches their dead body is unclean until the evening;

2. That anyone who touches the carcass of a beast that died of itself shall be unclean (Lev. 11:39)

3. That a lying-in woman is unclean like a menstruating woman (in terms of uncleanness) (Lev. 12:2-5)

4. That a leper is unclean and defiles (Lev. 13:2-46)

5. That a man, having a running issue, defiles (Lev. 15:1-15)

6. That the seed of copulation (sex secretions of the man or the woman) defiles (Lev. 15:16)

7. That a corpse defiles (Num. 19:11-16) “He who touches the dead body of anyone shall be unclean seven days.

Remedy for defilement -

That the waters of separation defile one who is clean, and cleanse the unclean from pollution by a dead body (Num.19:19-22)

In other words wash with water to remove these small sins. (Yes, these are sins). These are the only times you are required to wash according to God. Very simple Laws. Can we keep these Laws? Of course we can.

𝐎𝐫𝐚𝐥-𝐉𝐞𝐰𝐢𝐬𝐡 𝐋𝐚𝐰 𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐰𝐚𝐬𝐡 𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐬

Now we are going to look at how the Jewish oral law in the form of the Kabbalah and the Talmud tell the Orthodox Jews (same as the Pharisees) how and when to wash. These rules are what Paul followed as a Rabbi and renounced after his conversion back to the Written Law. As he wrote…

Act 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

The following rules for handwashing are the types of Jewish laws Paul said “No one can remember or do”. Torah? Easy to do. Jewish law? Only a Rabbi can remember and they are overkill. God never demanded any of this! First let’s look at the demands of the Kabbalah.

𝐃𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐥𝐨𝐠𝐲

All forms of demonology were adopted by the Pharisees and incorporated into so-called Judaism. Demons of the privy, of the night, of every phase of nature, were and are catered to by the tenets and customs of this sect. The Talmud book of Yadayim (hands) is, for example, on ritual hand-washing in connection with Pharisee demonology. The Talmud is larded with occult works and practices.

The Pharisee custom in Christ’s time of drizzling water alternately on the hands, to carry off demons (who presumably live in water) is still in force. The “Code of Jewish Law” (Schulchan Aruch), which is a digested “Mishna” of the Talmud, holds that an evil spirit takes over a sleeping person:

“When he rises from his sleep the evil spirit departs from his entire body excepting from his fingers. From there the unclean spirit does not depart unless he spills water on them three times alternately. One is not permitted to walk four cubits without having his hands washed.” (Schulchan Aruch, Vol. 1, Chapter II: Hebrew Publishing Co. 77-9 Delancey St., New York, copyright 1927). Says the Soncino Edition of the Talmud, in the Introduction to Yadayim (handwashing):


abcfef () No. 5180220

>>5180215

pt. 2

𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐨𝐧 𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐰𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠

Traditional Judaism requires certain types of ritual washing. Some of these types do not require a special ritual body of water (and can be done with tap water):

1. Netilat yadayim (“Raising [after ritually washing] the hands”), also known as Mayim Rishonim, which is done with a blessing, prior to eating any bread with a meal

1. Mayim acharonim (“After-waters”) a law or custom of ritually washing one’s fingers after a meal, to protect oneself from touching the eyes with hazardous residue.[3]

2. Netilat Yadayim Shacharit (“Raising [after ritually washing] the hands of the morning”), when getting up in the morning[4] after a full night’s sleep, or even after a lengthy nap, by pouring a large cup of water over one’s hands, alternating three times.

3. Netilat yadayim (without a blessing) to remove tuma (“impurity”) after:

1. Touching objects[ambiguous] that convey tumah such as:

1. A part of the body customarily covered[4] (private parts, back, arm pits, etc.)

2. Inside of nose or ear

3. The scalp (but not if one just touched the hair)

4. Leather shoes

5. A ritually unclean animal or insect

2. Cutting one’s hair or nails

3. Taking off one’s shoes[4]

4. Visiting a cemetery[4]

5. Sexual intercourse.[4] Some communities observe a requirement for washing one’s body (which may be done with tap water) after the above or after otherwise experiencing a seminal emission since these activities make the man baal keri (one who is impure due to ejaculation.)

4. After visiting the bathroom,[4] the ritual washing of one’s hands as a symbol of both bodily cleanliness and of removing human impurity – see Netilat yadayim above.

5. To remove tumat met (“impurity from death”) after participating in a funeral procession or coming within four cubits of a corpse.

6. During a Passover Seder, netilat yadayim[5] is performed without any blessing being recited, before the eating of a vegetable, called karpas, prior to the main meal.

7. Every Kohen present has his hands ritually washed in synagogue by the Levi’im (Levites) before uttering the Priestly Blessing in front of the congregation.

8. Some have the custom of washing their hands prior to scribal work.

There are even more rules to wash hands. No one can keep these. Jesus, the master of Torah Law, laughed at the Pharisees. Paul renounced them. And no one is required to follow these rules except for orthodox Jews which have violated a major Law of Torah…

Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.


abcfef () No. 5180429

>>5175118

THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE HERE DUDE IS VERY SIMPLE…

These Laws ARE NOT THE TORAH LAWS! You have cut and pasted them from Judaism 101 and they are REVISED Torah Laws converted into Jewish Rabbinical use. Again you folks talk about the "Law" and do not know what you are doing. Quit acting like you know WT%F you are doing okay? If you are a Christian then you really do not get the Law and if you are a Jew shill I wish you folks would send someone a little smarter next time okay?

That being said…I follow the Laws I encounter daily that apply. A lot of what you posted does not even apply to you or me. Do you have a beat or ox? Etc.

But how hard is it to keep the Law to honor God? Pretty easy. What is so hard about that? Most of these are pretty simple even if they are not Torah!

Let me give you an example or two though of how the Jews changed the Torah Law INTO WHAT YOU POSTED AS LAW, but is not okay dude? Pay attention. For example…

The Law said…

(Lev. 19:17) “You shall not hate your brother in your heart. You shall surely rebuke your neighbor, and not bear sin because of him.”

Jewish law changed to…

Not to put any Jew to shame.

Oh? They excluded neighbors and directed it to Jews only? Why did you do this? And…

The Law said…

(Lev. 19:13) . “You shall not cheat your neighbor, nor rob him.”

Jewish law changed to…

Not to rob by violence.

Oh really? You can cheat your neighbor but not by violence? What a nice change! How sweet of you.

The Law said…

(Deuteronomy 6:6-7) “These words which I command you today shall be in your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up.”

Jewish law changed to…

Read the Shema in the morning and at night.

What read the Shema? That is not what God said for that law is it?

You folks have changed Torah. These 613 laws ARE NOT TORAH LAWS dude. Why act like you are "All that"? Please stop and start reading.

Deu 4:2  Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. 


abcfef () No. 5180441

>>5175178

These are not Torah Laws. They are the Jewish re-write of them. Be careful folks! See the comment below…

>>5180429


abcfef () No. 5180525

>>5175000

You have no clue what the requirements are for the sabbath do you? Yes I have. Not by Jewish law however. The sabbath is a day of freedom not a day of Jewish restraint.

Hate is not a sin.

Calling a fool is not a sin.

You do not know the biblical definition of lust.

Etc.

You do not know what you are talking about.


87e589 () No. 5180569

>>5173220

>Where did all the Jew haters and the Judaizers go, I wonder.

Q ops cut their funding?


1d0af4 () No. 5181058

Jesus made it easy. Love your neighbors and love God. Its just that simple.


261301 () No. 5186756

>>5173220

93 posts… Equals 1/3 of this bread. Couldn't be more obvious, who's being paid to shill. KEK


1d0af4 () No. 5187705

>>5186756

that’s lecturefag. He’s magically been here sliding away since we started focusing on the Pharisees.


87e589 () No. 5188786

>>5187705

>that’s lecturefag. He’s magically been here sliding away since we started focusing on the Pharisees.

Panic.


5a7e86 () No. 5191891

>>5180569

Fake & gay imagination got away from you? "Muh Q is everything!"

NOPE.


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5a7e86 () No. 5194505

>>5193142

Wow! (((you))) are just soooo valuable. Shills calling shill. Get lost!


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27699b () No. 5195964

>>5186756

You have too many posts!

>>5187705

He doesn't post much anymore

kek


27699b () No. 5195974

>>5180525

>Yes I have. Not by Jewish law however

Good luck making up your own Law dude.


27699b () No. 5195987

>>5180441

The, um, bible verses from the Torah are listed on each and every single one of them….


27699b () No. 5195996

>>5180429

The problem I have is non-existent.

The problem you have is that you're trying to keep God's Law, because you think you are like God.


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27699b () No. 5196375

>>5196197

AMEN


1d0af4 () No. 5201756

>>5194505

Exactly… and check out who gave the faggot an “amen” to his cliche biblefag meme that he posted to look anon… the 100 post mossad shill larping as a moody bible indstitute jr prof lecturefaggot.

hahahaha. Mossad now hates and has to shill the biblefag thread… and it all started once we connected the dots that the Pharisees called out by Jesus are the forefathers of today’s religion known as “judaism”…. which is really just a fraudulent ripoff of the religion of Moses.


1d0af4 () No. 5201809

>>5180441

yep. we know. the 100 post mossad shill blatantly lies. that faggot only showed up once we started talking about the (((Pharisees))).

The enemies of Christ are desperate af these days.


1d0af4 () No. 5201990

>>5165720

These are words well spoken fren. That’s what the shills don’t get. They want us sooo badly to be hate filled. Do we like jokes? Yes. Do we tease them about their big noses and small dicks? Sometimes… but thats just all in fair game…

in my most honest opinion, there is nothing better than a based Jew. Talk about an independent thinker…. and now that i think of it, one of the smartest americans in our country’s history fit that category.


8d02d2 () No. 5205692

IF anyone exhibits the symptoms, THEN they are the Pharisee:

Matthew 23:13

But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!

->for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Matthew 23:13

But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

Matthew 23:14

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!

->for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer:

therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Matthew 23:15

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!

->for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Matthew 23:23

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!

->for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin,

->and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Matthew 23:25

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!

->for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Matthew 23:27

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!

->for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Matthew 23:29

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!

->because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

30 ->And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

Luke 11:42

But woe unto you, Pharisees!

->for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs,

->and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Luke 11:43

Woe unto you, Pharisees!

->for ye love the uppermost seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets.

Luke 11:44

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!

->for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.

DNA is completely irrelevant in comparison to ->the exhibition of the symptoms, as is the size of anyone's nose.

IF you exhibit the symptoms, THEN you are the Pharisee.

Anyone can be (and is) a Pharisee, even without a "Talmud."

Jesus provided us all with an inside look at the facts, and coupled it with the exhibition of symptoms that constitute a Pharisee. Jesus also provided us all with an avenue of Divine Judgment that does not slur the persons, but again points to the internal cause. A cause that I might add was installed in our current system by God HImself:

Mark 4:15

And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

When the Temple(s) of the O.T. came, and the distribution of the Word of God, then also came the internal cause, immediately.

The Pharisee is hit first, because they "handle and distribute" the Word of God. That is why Jesus attacked, there, to the leaders of the distribution. All the people were likewise infected, internally, with Satan.

The same things happen to this day.

God set up the system this way, that we would understand that everyone is put under Satan, internally. Doesn't have a thing to do with DNA or having a big nose.

In all the actions above, and in the exhibition of any or all the symptoms thereof, we can easily discern and deem the actions of SATAN in MAN, and not the persons, themselves infected.

All have the infection, in their own flesh/minds.

Romans 3:23

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

1 John 3:8

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

God has brought us all, personally, the enemy, and placed that enemy internally.

Whether any realize it or not, God's System remains in play, for all. And in that He DEMONstrates His Authority, over all.


8d02d2 () No. 5205718

Romans 11:32

For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

IF and when you see it, you will be led to divide your own self, from that internal enemy. And you won't have to worry about some other guy's problems, because the battle comes to ALL.

IF you say and claim you have no battle, you are in fact under domination of the internal enemy. When pointing to someone else and defray from pointing to yourself, you are in fact an open pawn of that enemy.

Was this fact of being bound to disobedience demonstrated in the O.T? Of course. Continually. And it continues to this day.

Genesis 42:24

And he turned himself about from them, and wept; and returned to them again, and communed with them, and took from them Simeon (hearing), and bound him before their eyes.

Do you hear and see the binding yet?

If not, then yes, you remain bound, also.


ebc3a7 () No. 5206356

I forgive you, lecturefag.

Peace be with you.


8d02d2 () No. 5206591

>>5206356

Jesus Wields A Two Edged Sword.

One side of that Sword forgives all people for all sins.

The other side of that same Sword is continually against the devil and his messengers IN MAN.

I understand then that both forgiveness and unforgiveness from God in Christ walks in the same pair of shoes.

Revelation 1:16

And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

Revelation 2:

12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;

13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

Revelation 2:16

Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

A believer who understands will take BOTH EDGES of His Sword. One of those edges, though falsely perceived as 'against us' is really against Satan-the devil and his messengers, and is also therefore FOR US.

Those who LIVE by the Sword, must also DIE by that same Sword.

Revelation 19:15

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Man shall LIVE by Every Word of God.

On the other hand, that same Sword is against the enemies of God, purposefully made and deployed precisely for the DEMONstration of God's Divine Superiority over all the parties involved and the demonstration of God's Mercy to only ONE of the parties, that would be MAN.

Those parties are MAN and DEVIL, overlapped currently.

There are no exceptions to THE RULE, other than God Himself.

God in Christ is both our Victor, and our Destroyer.

As faithful witnesses, we take BOTH SIDES of the Sword. We do sit where Satan's seat is, and will be slain, accordingly, without exceptions.

Romans 8:10

And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

" I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. "

Paul was likewise SLAIN by the Two Edge Sword:

Romans 7:

9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

"be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." (Rev 2:10)

"I KILL and I make ALIVE"

Toddling on one edge of the Sword will not defray the other edge.

That Sword cuts both ways, and this action can not be dissuaded by any man or devil.


abcfef () No. 5206739

>>5206356

That picture does NOT represent Jesus. The symbols to the right and left of his neck and the way he is holding his hand is all esoteric. Also, when you see a round circle around his head and a cross like that one this is another indicator it is "someone" else".

Circles around these "peoples" (or their "gods") represent the sun. These are sun signs.

This is probably a representation of some sun god. Not Jesus.


abcfef () No. 5207136

>>5164475

>>5180429

Pt. 1

𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐚𝐛𝐛𝐚𝐭𝐡

It is mistakingly taught that the oral law is an extension or interpretation of the Torah Law. When you analyze the Torah Law against the oral law you find that the oral law is an “end run” around the Torah Law. Whereas the Torah Law is a restraint on certain actions the Talmud authorizes these actions due to some men getting together to give themselves power.

Moses said… (Deuteronomy 18:10-12): “There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or daughter to pass through the fire or that useth divination, or an observer of times or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of the abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.” (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) Yet all of these ARE PERMITTED by Judaistic Pharisee scripture as an end run around Torah. (See, for example, the Jewish Talmud, Sanhedrin 65a-b).

Let’s read from the NT and incident that happened one day…

Mat 12:12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

Mat 12:13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.

Mat 12:14 Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.

Several times we read in the NT where the Pharisees routinely confronted Jesus about their contradictory interpretations of the Law between them and him. They routinely accused Jesus of breaking the law, but it was their law they were talking about not God’s Law. Jesus was a problem for the Pharisees as he constantly rebuked their ways as being foreign to God. If the Jews were not and are not following the Laws of God then who are they and what are they following?

𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐚𝐛𝐛𝐚𝐭𝐡 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐓𝐨𝐫𝐚𝐡 𝐋𝐚𝐰

What are the requirements from the Torah Law for keeping the Sabbath? They are very simple…

Do not light a fire

Do not buy, sell, trade, or do commercial work

Do not forsake assembling

Honor Jehovah

It is that simple. And the main one is of course “no commercial work” that involves making a living.

Here is an example of Israel keeping the Sabbath…

Neh 10:31 We won’t buy goods or grain on the Sabbath or on any other sacred day, not even from foreigners.

And the Sabbath was for the Gentile too not just Israelites…

Exo 20:9 You have six days to do all your work.

Exo 20:10 The seventh day is the day of worship dedicated to the LORD your God. You, your sons, your daughters, your male and female slaves, your cattle, and the foreigners (gentiles) living in your city must never do any work on that day.

Again this is very simple. Who cannot follow this if God asked this? The Sabbath is a day of freedom from work. If you want to fix your house go do it. If you want to travel to see the lake go do it. It is your day. The Sabbath was never intended to be a day of restraint until the Jews made it that way for their followers.

Eze 20:11 I gave them my laws and teachings, so they would know how to live right.

Eze 20:12 And I commanded them to respect the Sabbath as a way of showing that they were holy and belonged to me.

Eze 20:13 But the Israelites rebelled against me in the desert. They refused to obey my laws and teachings, and they treated the Sabbath like any other day. Then in my anger, I decided to destroy the Israelites in the desert once and for all.

As we see God was very angry.


abcfef () No. 5207140

>>5164475

>>5180429

>>5207136

Pt. 2

𝐓𝐚𝐥𝐦𝐮𝐝 𝐈𝐧𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐮𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐚𝐛𝐛𝐚𝐭𝐡

No Talmud book illustrates Christ’s depictions of Pharisaism better than the book of Sabbath. One way to go raving crazy is to study the Talmud book of Sabbath with its rules on what is or what is not permissible on the Sabbath. Concerning the Sabbath, even the digested laws, or Talmud Mishna in the Schulhan Aruch, take up 82 pages of Volume 2 (pages 63-145). When Paul writes about “All these rules and laws no one can keep” he is talking about the Jewish laws. This is why he left being a Pharisee. Again as Paul says…

Act 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

Remember, Paul followed WRITTEN LAW and Paul tries to explain the differences of the Law and again this is where the common student of the bible and most Christians miss the intent of Paul due to people not understanding Judaism.

Let’s look at some oral law, Talmudic, Pharisee requirements for the Sabbath…

𝐒𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐓𝐚𝐛𝐥𝐞

The sabbath table should be set with at least two candles (representing the dual commandments to remember and observe the sabbath), a glass of wine, and at least two loaves of challah (representing the dual portion of manna that God provided for the Israelites in preparation for Sabbath in the desert). The challah loaves should be whole, and should be covered with a bread cover, towel or napkin.

𝐋𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐂𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐥𝐞𝐬

Candles should be lit no later than 18 minutes before sundown. For the precise time when Sabbath begins in your area, consult the list of candle lighting times provided by the Orthodox Union or any Jewish calendar.

At least two candles should be lit, representing the dual commandments to remember and to keep the sabbath. The candles are lit by the woman of the household. After lighting, she waves her hands over the candles, welcoming in the sabbath. Then she covers her eyes, so as not to see the candles before reciting the blessing, and recites the blessing below. The hands are then removed from the eyes, and she looks at the candles, completing the mitzvah of lighting the candles.

𝐁𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐂𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐥𝐞𝐬

Barukh atah Adonai, Eloheinu, melekh ha’olam

Blessed are you, Lord, our God, sovereign of the universe

(REMEMBER NO WHERE IN THE TORAH DID GOD EVER COMMAND ANY OF THIS).

𝐊𝐢𝐝𝐝𝐮𝐬𝐡

Kiddush is recited while holding a cup of wine or other liquid, no less than 3.3 ounces. If wine or grape juice is not used, you should substitute shehakol nih’yeh bid’varo (by whose will all things come to be) for borei p’ri hagafen (who creates the fruit of the vine).

Vay’hi erev vay’hi voker yom hashishi

And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day

Following is a brief summary of some more of the Sabbath laws Jews follow:

• writing, erasing, and tearing;

• business transactions;

• driving or riding in cars or other vehicles;

• shopping;

• using the telephone;

• turning on or off anything which uses electricity, including lights, radios, television, computer, air-conditioners and alarm clocks;

• cooking, baking or kindling a fire;

• gardening and grass-mowing;

• doing laundry;

𝐌𝐮𝐤𝐭𝐳𝐚𝐡

Many objects have been designated by our sages as Muktzah–we are forbidden from moving them, in some cases, even for activities permitted on Sabbath. Muktzah may not be moved directly with one’s hand or even indirectly with an object (such as sweeping it away with a broom). However, Muktzah may be moved in a very awkward, unusual manner, with other parts of the body, e.g.: with one’s teeth or elbow, or by blowing on it.

𝐂𝐚𝐫𝐫𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠

On Sabbath one may not carry or transfer objects between a “reshut ha-yachid” (private, enclosed domain, such as the house); and a “reshut ha-rabim” (public domain, such as the street). Examples of this prohibition include: carrying in one’s pocket; carrying anything in the hand; wheeling a baby carriage or shopping cart, going outside with gum or food in the mouth.

𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧

Can we see now why Jesus laughed at the Jews? And we can also see what Paul meant when he said no one can keep all these laws (not the Torah Laws). Who developed all these customs and rituals? God never demanded this of anyone. And the problems is when the average person looks at the Jews carrying out these rituals they think this is what God asked for in the bible and it skews people from wanting to learn the Bible, but as we see the Jewish customs and rituals ARE NOT BIBLICAL and if they are not following God then who are these people?

Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.


ebc3a7 () No. 5208332

>>5206739

Yeah, the symbolism got me thinking too.

Thanks


8d02d2 () No. 5208377

>>5207140

Still remains pointless drivel to blame Jews. There are many very specific statements where God puts the onus upon Himself:

Deuteronomy 29:4

Yet the Lord hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day.

What is the point of blaming Jews for what God says He did not give them?

From a scriptural perspective, the fact above is stated again and again.

Isaiah 6:

9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.

10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

Ezekiel 12:2

Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not; they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a rebellious house.

Jeremiah 5:21

Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:

Paul pinpoints and nails the above actions directly to God's Own Intentions and does so precisely without BLAMING JEWS:

Romans 11:8

(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear; unto this day.

Who was/is the cause of their not seeing/hearing? GOD. What was put upon them, causing this? The spirit of slumber.

Paul "differentiates" the spirit of slumber from the people that spirit is put upon them.

The natural man can not perceive his condition. It is technically impossible for them to see or hear:

1 Corinthians 2:14

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The lesson here, and it's a difficult one, is that God does not give understanding to the natural man, and will not.

It is God who refuses to give the natural man understanding.

And there isn't one thing that a natural man can do, that will make it otherwise.

The natural man is in Divine Lockdown, and has been put there by God Himself.

You anti-Jewfags have no idea, because you also are in the same condition, not seeing, not hearing, refusing to understand. Because you also have been put in Divine Lockdown by God Himself.

Exodus 4:11

And the Lord said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind?

have not I the Lord?

Being called to see, is to submit to the fact that these things, God Does.

John 9:39

And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

The natural mind can not unwind these matters, because he can not differentiate himself from the spirit of SLUMBER.

If God wants any person to see, or hear, He can make that the case, instantly.

The conclusion? God Himself wants them, the Jews, and all natural men, BLIND AND DEAF. And there is not a thing the the JEW or the natural man can do about it. They are and will remain under the dominion of the spirit of slumber, because it is GOD HIMSELF who puts them there, under that dominion.

So, yeah, yer a pawn, and were made that way right from the start. It's not even you who is doing it, but the spirit of slumber that has been placed precisely between your own eyes and ears, by GOD.

Quite honestly, the best hope for any spiritual blind man, spiritual deaf man, is to become even blinder and dumber, until the point is obvious, and personally perceived.

We all have an adversary to deal with, and it's not the Jews, nor is it any of our fellow man.

1 Peter 5:8

Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Romans 7:21

I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

A believer has had their eyes opened to that law, and the hardline fact of it.

No blindman can see or hear of it, even though it is set before their own eyes.

They will blame and accuse anyone, but their own sorry hides, because they are pawns of the ADVERSARY.


abcfef () No. 5210616

>>5208377

First of all……you are mixing Jews and Israelites.

That being said what does it mean to not have eyes to see and ears to hear? Let's look at some things Jesus said…

Mat_7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

Luk_11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

Who knocks on this door to seek knowledge? Not too many people. And this goes for Jews AND Christians. Both groups are following traditions of the elders. How many Christian sects are there that are teaching contrary dogma, arguing, and telling their people to do blasphemous rituals and unbiblical rites?

And if what you are saying is true then why do all these people seem to find a religion of some sort, but cannot find the truth of the bible? Does blindness lead you to religion? Well, maybe it does. But lets look at another verse from Jesus…

Joh 6:63 …the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

The words he speaks are spirit and life! And also this…

Deu 8:3 …know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

Every word from God - not from men.

How many people do you know that say they are a "Good Christian" or "Good Jew" have truly taken the time to learn the bible and study every word as it is said to do? Not many. I know many folks who tomorrow will take their bible off the shelf and go to the pagan church to be a part of some group so they feel they did the right thing. They do not have eyes yet either do they? Does God owe them the knowledge that will open their eyes? Did they truly knock to seek this knowledge? Does God owe any person the insight of the bible at birth?

Do Jews knock on the door to learn the Torah when they can go to "Temple", sit for 2 hours, and watch some "Rabbi" go through his spiel? No. The Jew and the Christian are being led away from knowledge. And if they truly do not care, never knock, never seek, they will not find it either.

For example…if someone wants to be a weight lifter he cannot develop muscle by thinking about it. He must go lift the weights diligently. Same with bible discernment. You must have a burning desire or what is called "a calling" to master the bible or you will not "lift the weights". You will never piece together all the pieces of the puzzle that make the bible take on the bigger picture.

By the way…The bible tells us in Revelation 20:4-5 and 20:11-15 that there are 2 resurrections of the dead. The 1st resurrection is for the people who knocked, opened their eyes, and studied and repented. The 2nd is for everybody else and they will be judged by their works. God has not condemned people without “calling”, but they are not in this 1st resurrection. They missed the first bus you might say. And many people are not even familiar with this resurrection concept. It is God’s way of rewarding those who knocked.

Now this all being said…let's get back to the topics. If the Jews have been put to sleep spiritually THEN WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE AND WHY ARE WE TOLD THEY REPRESENT GOD? Who is perpetuating the myth that they are any better then the non-Jew? Why should I hold highly a group that as you say are put to sleep? And if these people are put to sleep why do they wake up to practice Talmudic writings, but cannot seem to search for Torah writings?

Over the years I have noticed that when I post my writings I get a very small amount of people who “get it”. If I post to a group of 20 only about 2 or 3 people truly get what I say. If I post to 100 that is only 10 people that get it. That to me is horrifying. To think these souls are wandering about clueless, truly do not care what God said, take part in some religion every now and then, and believe lies upon lies about topics such as the Jews.

As Paul said…

1Co 15:56  The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 

1Co 15:57  But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 

1Co 15:58  Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord. 


8d02d2 () No. 5211316

>>5210616

"First of all……you are mixing Jews and Israelites."

That's just you trying to define the categories by DNA, which is total BS.

Paul defined a Jew as an inward condition of the heart.

Romans 2:29

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Paul, on a DNA basis, again defines that all mankind is of one blood.

Acts 17:

24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

That makes all mankind your brothers.

You on the other hand define Jew by DNA and therefore you also want to claim that you are not LIKE OTHER MEN, particular the JEW DNA.

You're basically full of crap, no different than a common Pharisee who also claims they are not like other men.

Luke 18:

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

So, then you ask this question, completely missing the obvious:

"Now this all being said…let's get back to the topics. If the Jews have been put to sleep spiritually THEN WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE AND WHY ARE WE TOLD THEY REPRESENT GOD?"

Who's telling you spiritually blinded people represent God? Certainly not the scriptures.

Scriptures present that ALL, repeat, ALL are put under an adverse agency that is not them. This blinding is intentional and OF GOD, done by that adverse agency, the spirit of slumber.

So let's have a look at this spirit that is not mankind that we "all," knowingly or unknowingly deal with, and recognize it is not people/mankind, but that which is with us all, in the flesh:

Romans 11:32

For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

Did Paul, a believer, an Apostle, DENY this state? No! He had evil present with him, sin indwelling his own flesh, even a messenger of Satan in his own sorry hide, and openly admitted to ALL of this, in writing no less. Romans 7:17-21, 2 Cor. 12:7. Yet even believers will claim to high heaven that Paul didn't say what's in writing, and deny deny deny that's their own state also. But you see, it's not them doing the denying, it's the adversary that is not them.

Paul for example flat out tells believers that they were prior enslaved by the spirit of disobedience, the prince of the power of the air, who is the DEVIL:

Ephesians 2:

2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

When Jesus spoke to Saul, on the road to Damascus, the enemy is again, openly and clearly defined in Paul's Divinely called out mission:

Acts 26:

18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

It's technically not even you whining about the Jews being the problem. It's an affliction of spiritual blindness imposed on you by SATAN himself, whining in you to look any direction but to your own self and your internal CAPTOR.

2 Corinthians 4:4

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Those who are spiritually blinded can not differentiate between the captive and the captor. Why not? Because it's the CAPTOR who resists the Word of God.

Mark 4:15

And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

The Jew! The Jew! The Jew IS THE PROBLEM! (blindman spittle!)


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abcfef () No. 5214486

>>5211316

So many mistakes you posted and truly you do not discern scripture very well. You are stating assumptions and finding some scripture that looks similar to your points, but are way off.

And the definition of a Jew is very well defined physically. Paul is talking spiritually. And he cannot mean the Pharisiac Jew of his time as he left this group.

In Romans 2 Paul is comparing the Jew that follows the oral law to the Israelite or spiritual "Jew". He is making comparisons. You do not see this.

And mankind is NOT one blood. Mankind has all kinds of races that differ by DNA. And Israel was forbidden to mix their lineage with other races. (Numbers in the OT). However, if swe are one blood why do the Jews write they are above all blood?

Did I ever say I define Jew by DNA? Why are you putting words in my mouth? I defined "the Jew" in my earlier posts. Born of Judah, converted into "Judaism", there are many definitions of "Jew". Jesus was a Jew by his being born thru the tribe of Judah. He was not a religious Jew and had nothing to do with Judaism.

The DAN that links today's Jews is from Russia and the Kazars. 90% off all people in America that call themselves Jews are Kazars (Russian) thus the stereotypical "Jew" look. Russians are linked by DNA. Jews are linked by practicing Judaism with its tacit allegiance to "the Rabbi".

Quit attacking me for telling you the truth. Where did I say I am a Pharisee? Do you not get what a Pharisee does? They practice oral law. Do you understand this?

The Jew prayed thank God he is not like other men? I have had Jewish friends from Israel just 2 weeks ago tell me they thank God they are not American Christians. Talk about racist MFs!

You tell me God made us blinded but now you say Satan blinded us? Can you be consistent please.

And again, I am down on Christians following false dogma as I am against the Jews. Both are following false doctrines of men.

You are all over the bible, inconsistant, and trying to prove some kind of point which I still cannot figure out what you are saying. Except for some reason you are defending something I am not sure what it is.

I hope you learn the Law and quit defending something else.


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8d02d2 () No. 5218414

>>5214486

"mankind is NOT one blood."

Acts 17:26

And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

RECONCILE

Paul tells the truth above. Yer under control of a liar.


87e589 () No. 5223233

fuck (((you))) bumped


8d02d2 () No. 5223271

>>5214486

You: "Quit attacking me for telling you the truth. Where did I say I am a Pharisee? Do you not get what a Pharisee does? They practice oral law. Do you understand this?"

Jesus:

Matt. 23:

1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

All of you who claim the Talmud detrimentally says this or that are lying out your a**es, and have been falsely taught by other bigot anti-Semites.

Your own minds and hearts are poisoned by Satan.

Jews believe God saves everyone. That means they actually do love their neighbors. There is no threat there.

Psuedo (false/phony) christianity is a whole nother story. They have been led by the devil to condemn their neighbors to burn alive forever. This they have been falsely taught by the originator of this false doctrine, the Roman catholic church and all of her corrupted spinoffs. It is a Satanically originated "control the masses by personal threats" doctrine.

Paul taught that no man, no Gentile, no Jew, is better than any other given person.

Why?

Because ALL are under sin.

Romans 3:9

What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

Truthful Christianity teaches and practices to love our neighbors as ourselves. This is the LAW and the SPIRIT of God, in complete and full accord.

In seeking adverse judgments, we begin with applying that to ourselves. If we do, we will find ample opportunity for adverse judgments, because we all have to deal with our own evil present and indwelling sin.

The fall upon The Rock, God in Christ, is to be broken from our internal adversary, the devil. The expectation of faith in Christ is that Satan will be bruised or crushed, under our own two feet.

Romans 16:20

And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

There again, our enemy is pointed to, Satan.

It is not the Jews. It is not our fellow mankind.

Our HOPE is for the end of the devil and his messengers, and the redemption of the body, to the benefits of all people.

Titus 3:2

To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

We are to be sympathetic to the plight of every human captive of SATAN. And we understand that effort, by understanding our own captivity, in the flesh.

Satan IN MAN however, will never listen to God's Words, but is instead, Divinely Guaranteed to RESIST.

Every last one of you who condemn Jews OR any of your neighbors, are merely a mouthpiece and expression of Satan. Petty pawns who can not see your own factual internal binding by the adversary, unseen.

Matt. 25:

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

In the above, ALL those who are gathered shall be separated. That separation is from the devil and his messengers.

Matthew 13:49

So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

The Hope of truthful Christianity, is for all mankind. Every last one. Not just ourselves.

1 Timothy 4:

10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

You antiJewfags are so off target it's not even funny. You don't understand who your real enemy is, because you yourselves are virtually TIED to that enemy, internally.

Romans 11:32

For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

Whom God has bound, He Will FREE

Luke 4:

36 And they were all amazed, and spake among themselves, saying, What a word is this! for with authority and power he commandeth the unclean spirits, and they come out.

The above was only the preamble to the FINALE. A showing and a warning, to the real enemies, the unclean spirits. So it was with every killing decimation in the O.T., a warning of their end.

The Jews! The Jews!

HA! You have no clue what's coming.


4efbbf () No. 5224006

>>5223233

<yo boss! lets say "bumped" like its an organic thing to say!

>but they will realize that you homos bump it artificially for bad optics!

<nah… they are retards!


4efbbf () No. 5224048

>>5201990

>>5165720

>>5164475

>>5165720

>>5161917

>>5161901

>>5159737

>>5158747

It is an endlessly pushed, fake and gay shill garbage.

this link debunks all the shill garbage:

http://talmud.faithweb.com/

oh wait, what's this? all that garbage is taken from the "book" called "talmud unmasked"!

>talmud unmasked, a book published in 1892 by Justinas Bonaventure Pranaitis (1861–1917).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talmud_Unmasked

The author is the same clown that was exposed as a complete fraud in the Beilis trial.

He was brought over as an "expert", and got completely exposed as a fraud:

>One prosecution witness, presented as a religious expert in Judaic rituals, was a Catholic priest, Justinas Pranaitis from Tashkent, well known for his antisemitic 1892 work Talmud Unmasked. Pranaitis testified that the murder of Yushchinsky was a religious ritual, associating the murder of Yushchinsky with the blood libel, a legend believed by many Russians at the time.

>Pranaitis' credibility rapidly evaporated when the defense demonstrated his ignorance of some simple Talmudic concepts and definitions, such as hullin,[1]:p.215 to the point where "many in the audience occasionally laughed out loud when he clearly became confused and couldn't even intelligibly answer some of the questions asked by my lawyer."[3]

>A Beilis Defense Committee advisor, a writer named Ben-Zion Katz, suggested countering Father Pranaitis with questions like "When did Baba Bathra live and what was her activity" which he described as the equivalent of asking an American "Who lived at the Gettysburg Address?" There were enough Jews in the court for the resultant laughter to negate Pranatis' value to the prosecution.[1]:pp.214-216

KEK!

>A Tsarist secret police agent is quoted, reporting on Pranaitis' testimony, as saying: Cross-examination of Pranaitis has weakened evidentiary value of his expert opinion, exposing lack of knowledge of texts, insufficient knowledge of Jewish literature. Because of amateurish knowledge and lack of resourcefulness, Pranaitis' expert opinion is of very low value.

KEK!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menahem_Mendel_Beilis

oh and here is more:

>The identification of Yeshu as Jesus is problematic. For example, the Talmud mentions Yeshu ben Pandera/ben Stada's stepfather, Pappos ben Yehuda, speaking with Rabbi Akiva,[3] who was executed at the climax of the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135 CE.[4][5] Furthermore, Yeshu the Pharisee student is described as being a student of the second-century BCE nasi Joshua ben Perachiah, as well as being among the exiled Pharisees returning to Israel following their persecution[6][7] by John Hyrcanus,[8], an event which occurred in 74 BC. Additionally, Yeshu the sorcerer was executed by the royal government which lost legal authority in 63 BC. These events would place the lifetime of either Yeshu decades before or after the birth and death of Jesus.[9][10] Still, there are numerous other passages pertaining to an individual named "Yeshu" that either don't provide a specific time period or else specify a time where it is reasonable to assume mentioning of Jesus would even be possible (take for example a notable passage, Gittin 57a mentioning the nobleman Onkelos conjuring the tormented spirit of "Yeshu" – Onkelos lived more than a century after Jesus, thus making it possible the Yeshu mentioned could indeed be Jesus, though the likelihood of this is still questionable) still opening the possibility that whichever Yeshu mentioned might be Jesus. '

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud

let the shill kvetching begin!


4efbbf () No. 5224062

>>5159889

^^^^^

this

the message is spot on, although the shill you replied to is pushing fake and gay quotes.


1d0af4 () No. 5224516

>>5224006

>>5224048

its amazing how much you ip hop.


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1d0af4 () No. 5224689

>>5223233

the mossad shills can’t see an echo used without getting triggered. Pretty hilarious. We are winning fren.

>>5218164

this timez 6 gorillion. saved.


abcfef () No. 5225301

>>5223271

Gibberish


dc4141 () No. 5226656

What is the mystery mentioned here?


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dc4141 () No. 5227518

>>5226656

The reason you vannot answer this question with confidence.


dc4141 () No. 5227792

Exodus 3:14-15 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

K


dc4141 () No. 5227828

>>5227792

This is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

Couldn't be more plain.


dc4141 () No. 5227856

The beginning of wisdom.


bdc46c () No. 5227874

>>5226656

The mystery hidden from old in the types and foreshadows of the sin offerings and temple service of the OT was that same mystery the angels longed to look into (1 Pet. 1:12) was how the Father would reconcile mankind to Him; that God had foreordained from the beginning the plan of salvation through the gospel of Christ; that God had always planned to offer His grace to those who would believe of ALL NATIONS, both Jew & Gentile who believed in His Son as the Lamb slain for the last sin offering ever to be offered (Acts 10:10-48).

There is no other sin offering acceptable to the Father than Yeshua, and there is no other way to be reconciled to the Father than thru Christ. The mystery, especially for the Jews was that it was for everyone who will believe.

Col. 1:21-29:

"21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:

25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;

26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

29 Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily." (KJV)


dc4141 () No. 5227966

>>5227856

We were created in his image and likeness and what else?


dc4141 () No. 5228001

>>5227966

No matter what language you speak you all speak the same name. Are you a living being? I AM


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1d0af4 () No. 5228531

>>5226710

mossad can’t meme.


4efbbf () No. 5231110

>>5224516

>>5224673

<yo boss! he is kicking our asses again! what do we do!?

>QUICK HOMO! POST THAT GARBAGE BOOK AGAIN!

<but it's shit… it uses the same quotes as the one he debunked and we already posted that shit 13425246 times!

>JUST POST THAT SHIT GAYLORD! AND MARK SOME LINES WITH RED IT'LL WORK FOR SURE!

more shill kvetching and 0 arguments directed at this:

>>5224048


abcfef () No. 5233660

>>5227792

Actually that is NOT his name. And in Isaiah Yahweh is NOT his name. He has about 70 names, but this is what it means…

The word "name" means "power or "authority" in Hebrew. Yahweh is his power. I am who I am simply means that is his authority.

AND ALSO, NOTHING GOD SAID IS "FOREVER" is forever! It is only forever until God changes his mind. There were many things God said would be "Olam" and we do not see them now. Many things.

FYI. "Name" does not men a name. It means this is his power. (I come in the power (name) of God)


dc4141 () No. 5239577

2 Timothy 3:1-7 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.


dc4141 () No. 5239677

Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.


bdc46c () No. 5241268

>>5239577

And, when were the "last days"? Do you think this phrase speaks of our day and time?

1 Pet. 1:19-20, "19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you," (KJV)

As Christ was made manifest in the 1st cent. AD and as He was manifest in "these last times", then as A = B, and if B = C, then A must also = C.

He was manifest in the 1st cent during "these last days". The 1st were the last days, and specifically they were the last days of the tribes of Israel, the last of which was Judah; & specifically the last days of the old Mosaic animal sacrificial covenant. They were the last days Gabriel had prophesied of the 490 years for the destruction of Jerusalem.

As the destruction of Jerusalem occurred the 2nd time - the dbl fulfillment - in AD 70, then the Mosaic covenant ended with the destruction of that temple, & they are over.

We are no longer living in "these last days". That concept is a Rothschild psyop proliferated through the funding of the Scofield Reference "bible", printed by the Oxford Univ. Press in 1907 before the "state" of Israel was created by Zionist cabal leaders.

The argument over whether those ppl living in that corporate "state" of Israel are true "Jews" is of no consequence. That land promise was fulfilled a long time ago (Josh. 21:45) & was ever contingent upon their obedience (Deu. c.7; 20:17).

The Rothschilds began buying the lands in Palestine in the middle to late 1800's b/c they knew of the oil and other resources in the ME. They wanted to control them, & conspired to recreate the city of Jerusalem and the Greater Israel program so they could run the ME from Jerusalem. None of this is a part of God's plan.

The word "soon" in Rev. did not mean 2000 yrs later.


1d0af4 () No. 5244481

>>5231110

What’s your problem with Michael Hoffman? He doesnt believe the 6 gorillion fairy tale?


27699b () No. 5246542

Jesus fulfilled the Law.

What does that mean to fulfill the Law? How did Jesus fulfill the Law?

Fulfill

Genesis 25:24 And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

Exodus 7:25 And seven days were fulfilled, after that the Lord had smitten the river.

Job 36:17 But thou hast fulfilled the judgment of the wicked: judgment and justice take hold on thee.

So fulfill has the meaning to fill, full.

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Mark 15 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost. And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom. And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.

2 Corinthians 5 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

As I see it, there are 3 ways to fulfill the Law. Any Law. But these are God's Laws.

1. Obey them perfectly, every second, in every way.

Jesus did this. We know Jesus did this because he rose from the dead; had he violated any portion of the Law, Jesus would have been an imperfect sacrifice, a sinner, not capable of purchasing his own redemption, much less the world's.

By obeying the Law, you fulfill the Law.

2. By taking the punishment in the Law.

Jesus could not do this, as Jesus did #1. He broke no Law, and therefore coult not justly be punished under the Law. But wait. Jesus offered Himself as a sacrifice on our part; by spanning all time and space and taking all of our sins upon Himself, Jesus did pay the price for breaking all of God's Law.

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

So Jesus also fulfilled the Law in this regard; He bore the punishment on each and every sin, suffering the wrath of God on each and every sin, and giving up the ghost, or dying, the ultimate price for breaking God's Law.

3. Love

This is the one I have only recently become aware of through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God. There is no Law against Love. Love of God, and Love of Neighbor, is the whole of the Law. And Jesus dying for us, while we were undeserving sinners, proves God's love for us.

Jesus fulfilled the Law by performing the greatest act of Love known to mankind; laying down His life for all of us.

Jesus fulfilled the Law perfectly, in all of those three ways.

If you try to fulfill the Law perfectly, you cannot do #1, you cannot do #3, and you will only fulfill the Law by being punished for your crimes against God.

Become wise. Take the pardon being offered to you by the Son of God. Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead, and you will be saved. (Rom. 10:9-13)


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a57727 () No. 5251818

New here. I'm seeing a lot of Jewish corruption of Christianity in my personal religious truth search.

https://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2010/02/septuagint-vs-masoretic-which-is-more.html

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/could-israel-lose-the-dead-sea-scrolls/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_2334

Just icing on the cake. I could post a lot more but as this is old convo, I tried to bring things up to recent.


87e589 () No. 5252855

>>5251818

The constant corruption of teachings, down to the deliberate changing of definitions of words, is inexcusable.

It caused this anon to take a reductionist view of Christianity, to "God is love, and he wants you to love God, love your neighbor, and love yourself".

If it doesn't fit logically within that, it's (((their))) corruption.


8d02d2 () No. 5256276

>>5252855

The simplicity of the Gospel as you stated in parentheses is precisely why The Word can not be corrupted.

The Word and the Spirit are One.

2 Corinthians 11:3

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.


87e589 () No. 5264775

fuck (((you))) bumped


4efbbf () No. 5265935

>>5244481

>>5248089

<NOT WORKING BOSS!!!!!!! NOW WHAT?!

>POST MORE PAGES FROM THAT GARBAGE BOOK! HIGHLIGHT SOME SHIT IN RED! MAKE IT LOOK ORGANIC!

same fake and gay quotes as were written in "talmud unmasked" 70 before that.

Shill kvetching is fun to watch. come back when you have actual arguments against this:

>>5224048


27699b () No. 5266499

>>5252855

You're right. God said it.

John 13:34-35

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.


27699b () No. 5266579

>>5252855

1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1 John 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Show me the "corruption".

Daily Reminder: All the Jews in heaven are named Jesus. Everyone else is either an angel or a new creation in Christ Jesus.

So a billion years from now, the only place you'll find Jews is in hell. Because not all Jews are saved, now, are they.

Nor are all of you.


c45f7d () No. 5267315

Question I have pondered.

What if the Garden of Eden was a hight tech computer lab?

What if biting the apple (apple computers) is about to some kind of hack?

What if Adam and Eve were AI programs?

These are crazy thoughts but what if????


abcfef () No. 5270688

>>5246542

Let's look at the word fulfil and Mathew 5:17…

In the NT sin is defined as breaking the OT Law!. As we read…

1Jo 3:4

(ALT) Every one practicing sin also practices lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

(CEV) Everyone who sins breaks God’s law, because sin is the same as breaking God’s law.

You posted about Jesus fulfilling the Law. This verse is mistakingly taught in the Christian church to mean somehow Jesus abolished the Law. That is impossible. As long as humans are in the flesh we must have a Law to follow or we live in 100% lawlessness. Even if you feel you have Jesus in your heart that has nothing to do when you practice unlawlessness – or sinning. If Jesus were truly in your heart you would not sin at all.

So let’s look at the rest of what you were referring to and take a harder look…

The Kingdom and Laws -

Mat 5:17 "Don't ever think that I came to set aside Moses' Teachings or the Prophets. I didn't come to set them aside but to fulfill…

The word fulfill is from the Greek word Plaroo and it means to verify, fully preach, perfect. This is what Jesus was doing.

fulfill from - play-ro'-o

From G4134; to make replete, that is, (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.: - accomplish, X after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full (come), fully preach, perfect, supply.

This is the first of 15 references to the Law by Jesus. However, what did Jesus fulfill? Notice he says “Moses teachings or the prophets”. The LAW did not come from the prophets so what he is fulfilling is simply the prophecies of his coming. His coming was to teach and explain the Law. As he says he did not come to abolish the Law

Mat 5:18 Truly I say to you, Till heaven and earth come to an end, not the smallest letter or part of a letter will in any way be taken from the law, till all things are done.

People teach verse 17, but not 18. It says on part of the Law will fail until all things are done. All things are not done yet.

Also in the NT we read verses such as Jesus explaining the Law…

Mat 23:23 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithes of mint and dill and cummin, and you have left aside the weightier matters of the Law: judgment, and mercy, and faith. It was right to do these, and not to have left those aside.

Joh 7:49 But not knowing the Law, this crowd is cursed.

Act 24:14 (GW) But I’ll admit to you that I’m a follower of the way of Christ, which they call a sect. This means that I serve our ancestors’ God and believe everything written in Moses’ Laws and the Prophets.

Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the Law are just with God, but the doers of the Law shall be justified.

and many more.

Christianity is lawlessness. It is not something Jesus would endorse. It is based on an incorrect teaching of Paul. Remember, as the previous posts show and even the very top post – Paul is discussing 2 sets of Laws not 1. That is where people are misled. As James says…

“Faith without works is dead”.

Finally you talk about love. What does Jesus say love is? Saying "I love you" to someone? As Jesus said…

Joh 14:15  If ye love me, keep my commandments. 

Joh 14:21  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 

The commandments summarize HOW to love God, yourself, and your neighbor. The Law IS LOVE.

And again, fulfill does not mean to get rid of. The Greek word has many meanings. You have been misled.


abcfef () No. 5270747

>>5266499

You do not understand love if you do not know the Law. As Jesus said…

Joh 14:15  If ye love me, keep my commandments. 

Joh 14:21  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 

The things people do many times as "love" are actually very sinful behavior. Satan is laughing his ass off.

Love is techniques defined by God.


8d02d2 () No. 5277926

>>5270688

You: "If Jesus were truly in your heart you would not sin at all."

Paul:

1 Timothy 1:15

This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

The law very precisely proves everyone to be under sin. There is no avoiding the facts of it.

Romans 3:9

What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

Galatians 3:22

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

Sad day when supposed believers can't even figure out they have sin dwelling in their own sorry hides that will never obey any law, evil present within their own heads and most couldn't love their neighbors if their lives depended on it, all courtesy of sin,

which btw is demonically sourced.

1 John 3:

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

The only way sin ceases is when the devil is destroyed in the LoF.

The law stands against sin, but doesn't destroy the devil(s). The law actually has a reverse effect. Sin is aroused to perform sin by the law:

Romans 7:

13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

1 Corinthians 15:

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

The culmination of SIN is when the devil takes over people's minds and hearts, and commands that people be burned alive forever. The exact opposite of "loving our neighbors as ourselves."

You have no idea what you are even handling with the law.

We lift it up, and uphold it, exactly for the purposes above, to bring the knowledge of sin, until it kills us.

Romans 7:

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Does that mean we no longer sin? Never. We become a 'magnet' for the resistance of the DEVILS.

When Paul defined himself as the chief os sinners, he was not just observing himself. We do have an evil spiritual adversary, and we ALL deal with that adversary, internally.

You think painting up the tomb makes you sin less or sinless? lol. You just ain't looking close enough, and nothing more:

Matt. 15:

19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

You think sin is only on the outside. It's inside, and you're in denial, courtesy of the adversary.

Join the battle and stop lying to yourself about how "legal" your indwelling sin and evil present is.

Maybe you might end up actually loving your neighbors as yourself? Imagine that?


0161f7 () No. 5279292

>>5267315

more likely the garden of eden was a bio dome put on earth to protect the freshly supernaturally 3D printed humans from the flesh eating dinosaurs outside its walls, the scriptures speak of angels guarding the entrance, and a "Hedge" of protection"..also interesting to note, that Eve was created from Adams Rib, a bone that regrows… and that has the marrow required to obtain sufficient DNA and genetic Code to grow a MATE…. I believe GOD is a highly advanced "UFO" that created the universe, that there are multiple universes…the one we are in appears to have had its "CODE" damaged by a Virus called "Lucifer"…and we are awaiting the return of the Architect to restore the code to pristine functionality..thus the new heavens and the new earth, without damaged DNA without "SIN" and again living forever in a perfect human body…the ones that Adam and Eve originally had, who were intended to live forever in the perfect environment (biodome)


dc4141 () No. 5279399

Having ears but can't hear and eyes and can't see

The God of this world has done this to them.


27699b () No. 5285462

>>5270688

>to mean somehow Jesus abolished the Law.

Show me, in my post, where I said this.


27699b () No. 5285483

>>5270688

I told you above how Jesus fulfilled the Law in three separate, distinct, and perfect ways.

Now all you need is the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit of God to understand it.

When you admit you are a sinner; when you admit you are not like God; when you admit that you cannot keep the Law perfectly, as the Father in heaven is perfect; when you find out what the rewards of keeping the Law are (hint: they have nothing to do with heaven, or eternity); when your world comes crashing down in depression, despair, and loss…..

You're right where you need to be, to find Jesus. Waiting for you, at the cross, where He took your sins upon Himself, holding out a pardon in His grace, and in His mercy, and asking you to believe He is Who He says He is.


27699b () No. 5285490

>>5270747

You do not love Jesus with all of your heart, with all of your soul, with all of your spirit, with all of your body, every second of your existence.

So under this Law too, you have failed.


abcfef () No. 5286443

>>5285483

You people do not even know what the word sin is. How can you admit to something you do not even know what you are admitting to?

You folks do not understand again what love is. I told you what Jesus said love is and you keep deflecting back to your Christian dogma.

TRULY I THINK YOU PEOPLE ARE JEW TROLLS PLAYING CHRISTIAN TO DEFLECT PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE LAW. YOU ARE A DEVIL SNAKE OIL SALESMAN OR WOMAN IN YOUR CASE.

You people should be ashamed of yourself playing like you really care.


abcfef () No. 5286455

>>5285490

You fake Christians make me nauseous. You are a shill fraud.


abcfef () No. 5286478

>>5277926

Again gibberish stupid bull shit.


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27699b () No. 5286793

>>5286443

I do, and have explained it to you, many times.

Sin is "Missing the Mark", and in this case the Mark, as Jesus said, is "Be ye therefore perfect, as the Father in Heaven is perfect."

Are you perfect, as the Father in Heaven is perfect?


27699b () No. 5286797

>>5286455

I'm the real deal, dude. You'd know that if you were a born again Christian too. That's how spiritual discernment works.


27699b () No. 5286807

>>5286478

If the bible is gibberish and stupid, why are you (failing) to follow the Laws contained in it?


8e490c () No. 5287858

>>5251818

>Jewish corruption

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_Hebrew_Bible_canon

My argument is simply that the MT is newer and was pushed by Masoretes and around the time of the publishing of KJV (which also is corrupted GARBAGE [compare it with Geneva 1560 : Romans 13]) Christians adopted the MT as standard.

https://www.poweronhigh.com/pdf%20doc%20folder/POHM%20Names%20of%20God%20Massoret%20Altered%20Text.pdf

http://www.doxa.ws/Messiah/Lxx_mt.html

I'm not here to argue my faith. I'm here to present research. I'm not here to convert anyone. I'm offering information that has helped comfort me as I progress in my spirituality with Jesus Christ. It wasn't hard for me to grapple with the reality once I realized more truth. Jesus is with us. His spirit will guide us for more truth. I'm only here to free myself and work out my own salvation. What I believe I just simply presented is the gateway for anyone (not just Christians/Jews) to acknowledging the modern day Protestant Bible is diluted garbage. Entirely used to control us as slaves of this world instead of bondservants of the One True God.

Other reading to get the juices flowing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-canonical_books_referenced_in_the_Bible

2 Peter 3

14Therefore, beloved, as you anticipate these things, make every effort to be found at peace with Him, without spot or blemish.

15Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters,d speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort,e as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard so that you will not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure standing. 18But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity.

Amen.


3afe85 () No. 5287894

On child-killing, serial adulterer Trump's watch (Pr 8:36, Ex 20:14).

Trust God's plan. https://www.theisraelwire.com/2019/02/18/planned-parenthood-kept-aborted-babies-alive-to-harvest-organs-ex-technician-says.html


27699b () No. 5288037

>>5287858

Many believe that the KJV is based on the Hebrew Masoretic text of the Second Rabbinic Bible, edited by Jacob Ben Chayyim and printed by Daniel Bomberg in 1525.

However, the KJV appeared to follow the First Rabbinic Bible, edited by Felix Pratensis in 1517-1518, as this first edition includes Joshua 21:36-37 and Nehemiah 7:68 whereas the second edition omits these verses.

Except for these two passages, the KJV appeared to follow the Ben Chayyim text.

http://www.kjvtoday.com/home/reliable-hebrew-text

I've never personally met a born again Christian who had a problem with the KJV; only unbelievers. As you admitted you're an unbeliever, you should know that you are dealing with things that require spiritual discernment to understand. You cannot attack the bible as you would a different work; the bible is holy, a collaboration between men and God. And if you happen to be Jewish, YHWH blinded the Jews following the resurrection so that they cannot understand Moses and the prophets.

As to the "non-canonical books" you reference, Peter is speaking of Paul's writings, all of which that are known are in are in the New Testament.


e5c5b1 () No. 5288808

>>5287858

I've recently made my first steps on this journey. Which bible would you recommend? I thought the KJB was pretty close to the old testament, at least compared to other ones. I'm looking for a version as close to God's word as possible, without unnecessary interference.

ThankQ, fren.


27699b () No. 5288917

>>5288808

Then learn Greek and Hebrew.

If you don't want to learn Greek and Hebrew, why are you asking an Anon who thinks that the greatest English bible translation of all time, the King James Version, is corrupted "garbage"?


8e490c () No. 5289177

>>5288037

No true Christian fallacy.

>>5288808

Please read these links and make the choice for yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexapla#Hexaplaric_problems._Critical_editions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_Bible

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoretic_Text

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_Hebrew_Bible_canon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urtext_(Biblical_studies)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-canonical_books_referenced_in_the_Bible

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_New_Testament_canon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_criticism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#Literary_attributes

You could learn the greek and hebrew (kinda a tall order, and likely a slide to distract you for the actual discussion).

Good luck in your epic quest for truth!

I hope one day we won't be reduced to these conversations online so we can get to the bottom of it together!

(I personally enjoy Geneva 1560 right now and LXX). Calvin calls the Pope the anti-Christ in the footnotes…pretty good stuff. The history around this stuff is fascinating and not entirely up for me to decide.

I really recommend this for reading so we know what the original goal was:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Awakening

Peace be with you!


e5c5b1 () No. 5289237

>>5288917

No need to snap, Anon. And no, I'm not keen on learning greek or hebrew. 10 years of latin was enough of a dead language for a lifetime.

I almost purchased the KJB recently, because a lot of people echoe what you said: That it's probably the best english version of a bible you could buy.

So please bare with me. I'm a Religion newfag and was simply trying to find out which bible to get.


27699b () No. 5289245

>>5287858

Let's taste test this "massive" problem with Romans 13 you say exists.

Here's the Geneva 1560 Textus Recepticus for Romans 13, where you say there is a massive difference demonstrating the "corrupt" "garbage" nature of the KJV.

Romans 13

Geneva: 13:1 Let euery soule be subiect vnto the higher powers: for there is no power but of God: and the powers that be, are ordeined of God.

KJV 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

Geneva: 13:2 Whosoeuer therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist, shall receiue to themselues condemnation.

KJV : 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Geneva: 13:3 For Magistrates are not to be feared for good workes, but for euill. Wilt thou then bee without feare of the power? doe well: so shalt thou haue praise of the same.

KJV : 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

Geneva: 13:4 For he is ye minister of God for thy wealth, but if thou do euill, feare: for he beareth not the sworde for nought: for he is the minister of God to take vengeance on him that doeth euill.

KJV : 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Geneva: 13:5 Wherefore ye must bee subiect, not because of wrath only, but also for conscience sake.

KJV : 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

Geneva: 13:6 For, for this cause ye pay also tribute: for they are Gods ministers, applying themselues for the same thing.

KJV : 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

Geneva: 13:7 Giue to all men therefore their duetie: tribute, to whome yee owe tribute: custome, to whom custome: feare, to whome feare: honour, to whom ye owe honour.

KJV : 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

Geneva: 13:8 Owe nothing to any man, but to loue one another: for he that loueth another, hath fulfilled the Lawe.

KJV : 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Geneva: 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adulterie, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steale, Thou shalt not beare false witnes, Thou shalt not couet: and if there be any other commandement, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, euen in this, Thou shalt loue thy neighbour as thy selfe.

KJV : 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Geneva: 13:10 Loue doeth not euill to his neighbour: therefore is loue the fulfilling of the Lawe.

KJV : 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Geneva: 13:11 And that, considering the season, that it is now time that we should arise from sleepe: for now is our saluation neerer, then when we beleeued it.

KJV : 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Geneva: 13:12 The night is past, and the day is at hande, let vs therefore cast away the workes of darkenesse, and let vs put on the armour of light,

KJV : 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

Geneva: 13:13 So that wee walke honestly, as in the day: not in gluttonie, and drunkennesse, neither in chambering and wantonnes, nor in strife and enuying.

KJV : 13:13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.

Geneva: 13:14 But put yee on the Lord JESUS CHRIST, and take no thought for the flesh, to fulfill the lustes of it.

KJV : 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Go ahead and show me the "corrupt" "garbage", 'cause I ain't seein it.


27699b () No. 5289346

>>5289237

I snap a lot harder than that.

The versions that are the closest to God's word as possible are written in Greek and Hebrew. Hence an educated man in past centuries knew Greek and Hebrew.

Barring that, it depends on what you want. The KJV is not a word-for-word translation, like Young's Literal Translation is. It is the best version of the bible in English, derived from the best manuscripts that exist, and the convention which produced it did so under the guidance of the Holy Spirit of God.

It may not be what you want, or need, though. There is a book called The Story, which is not a version of the bible, but the story contained in the bible from beginning to end. It is put into novel form for ease of reading.

The versions of the bible that I use, and have for decades, are the KJV, the New KJV, and the English Standard. I also use the free online biblegateway dot com which contains dozens of versions.

I do not suggest you read the bible to become a religious person. I suggest you read the bible because it will introduce you to Jesus of Nazareth, and in that vein, would recommend the New KJV and the Gospel of John as the place to start.


b18ee6 () No. 5289471

Does any of this really matter in the larger scheme of things? It's becoming pretty obvious that we are witnessing the foundation of the beast system being laid, with most transactions being digital and the rise of crypto. Quantum computing is basically here and with it comes enough computing power to monitor every single person on the planet.

We're also witnessing a total breakdown of normal behavior and decency in the western world. "Woman can have penises too" and the entire transgender movement, which is even spreading to children.

Satanism and the occult are becoming more popular and are going mainstream. It's becoming easier for someone in this country to be a Satanist than a Christian.

Islam is an evil religion and given it's destructive nature and human rights abuses, you'd think the left would want nothing to do with it, and yet it is Christianity that is shunned.

I love POTUS and the Q movement, but I'm starting to believe that even if the treasonous bastards are held to justice, society is to far gone. I truly believe POTUS is a force for good in the world and that he is part of God's plan, but I also believe that we are just along for the ride. Once Trump is gone, if the left gains control then we'll be headed for a one world government.

I don't know how long this will all play out for, but the stage for the anti-Christ is being set. The beginning of the End Times appear to be upon us and nothing can stop it, but I do not fear it because I trust in Jesus as my Lord and Savior and welcome his return. My only hope is that the true believers in Christ, those willing to die before forsaking his name, will be raptured before the horrors of the anti-Christ are unleashed upon the world.


27699b () No. 5289654

>>5289471

Foundation was laid in the Garden of Eden 6004 years ago.


8e490c () No. 5289923

>>5288808

>>5287858

>>5289245

Romans13.com A website devoted to the proper translation of the book. It has a neolibertarian/anarchoChristian bent but speaks at length on the subject.

Read Romans in its full context.

Pretty powerful stuff, I don't agree with it 100%. Read as much as you can and you'll begin to ask the obvious questions most Christians choose to ignore.


b18ee6 () No. 5290110

>>5289654

Yes that is correct, but I'm specifically referring to the foundations for the anti-Christ rule. For the first time in history the ability to know everything about every person, total control of all financial transactions, instant worldwide communication and bio-tech implants are either here already, or almost here.


27699b () No. 5290159

>>5289923

Or you could literally read verse by verse comparisons above and see that there is literally no difference in meaning in any single verse in that entire chapter.

Watch out who you follow.


27699b () No. 5290179

>>5290110

Then read Daniel, who lays it all out, or the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which states what is going to happen in sequence. (Or start reading about Javier Solana.)


8e490c () No. 5290311

>>5290159

>literally read verse by verse comparisons

>literally no difference in meaning

Or you could read the ENTIRE book of Romans and put things in context, lecturefag (who posts 1/3 of the entire bread with GARBAGE).

Moody Bible Institute Jr. Professor LARP lol


1d0af4 () No. 5290490

>>5290311

hahaha. Yeah that was a super accurate description of that shill too. Funny how he showed up the moment the biblefag threads focused on the (((Pharisees)))…. now he posts half the bread to make us all look like mundane bickering christians… while of course a fair amount of his posts also deflect criticism of the jews.

The shills can’t help but glow. We just judge them by their fruits and their shit is rotten to the core.


27699b () No. 5290503

>>5290311

>>5290490

You two clowns need to read up on what happened to the "men" at Sodom and Gomorrah.


e5c5b1 () No. 5290583

>>5289923

>>5289346

Thx, Anons. Should be enough input to get going.

I'll probably get a KJV and some sort of literal translation to start with.

The story thing isn't for me. Sounds a bit like religion for dummies. Anarcho-christian? Not sure about that either, although the general concept of anarchy isn't that bad. What people think it is, is bad. In the context of religion, however…

A few months ago, when digging for some nasty stuff, I've literally felt something like divine love in my heart, trying to take the pain away from me. One of the most, if not THE most intensive feeling I've ever felt. I hope that doesn't sound silly.


8e490c () No. 5291159

>>5290583

> e5c5b1 Doesn't sound silly at all.

I'm pretty sure that is the same Spirit of God that is inside of me.

Hope we meet in Heaven!

I've began an anarchist in my teens, then became Christian and was suckered into believing the wars after 9/11 were just and some sort of Christian crusade so a lot of Romans13.com resonates with me as I come back to my roots. God lead me down a purification path that won't finish until I meet Him face to face. He used everything to glorify Himself.

I consider myself a 'statist' in that Trump is finally doing the job of Govt and undoing the chains that the Govt placed on us over the decades.

I consider myself anarchoChristian in that I have been indoctrinated into a corrupt faith and am seeking out the truth on my own. I would never tell you what to believe at this point except that "divine love;" and that I believe that spirit is God and you should allow it to lead you (not your heart).

I like a lot of the essays on Romans13.com because it hovers around American Revolution and topics in the Bible.

I love my country but I hate my government. If the current display of deep state wars going on over in the general research thread isn't enough to suspect that we are in desperate need of government reform - then I don't know what else to tell you concerning our nation and upbringing.

I just want an open discussion about the future of our nation when the BIG things drop. Our Constitution (which we swear to uphold but no one living ever signed) may be a good framework to begin again. I'm not sure where Americans want to go from there. I'd rather NOT undo our framework unless I find out something else in the future to persuade me otherwise (idk, something like this: http://presscore.ca/two-constitutions-in-the-united-states-1st-was-illegally-suspended-in-favor-of-a-vatican-crown-corporation-in-1871 ). But until then, I don't know.

I like the fact that Trump is using everything against the deep state and that I personally haven't had to life a finger to kill anyone for our freedom yet. I like that we get to work on our broken health, beliefs, and families while bad guys are on the run. Provided all goes well, we will continue to heal and I support our POTUS while he fixes shit beyond our control. I want peace, wealth and sanity in all our futures. This is heavy stuff, use your God-given freedoms that are recognized by that constitution right now and find peace in knowing that the Spirit of Truth will prevail in helping you home and your NEW government isn't going to get in your way like they did me.


1d0af4 () No. 5291553

>>5290503

moar lecturefagging. cool story fagbag.

u should read up on the second death so u know what to expect.


1d0af4 () No. 5291590

>>5290583

that doesnt sound silly at all. KJV is the way to go. Good luck fren. Pay special attention to the red texts in the gospels and the parables therein.

Jesus promised us the answers to the mysteries of the unicerse would be encrypted in his parables. Matthew 13:34-35


27699b () No. 5292421

>>5290583

The Holy Spirit gives every man a chance to believe the truth; that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God.

If the Holy Spirit of God is tugging at your heart, He's calling you, and He will direct your bible reading, and bring to your attention what you want to know.

But do know that Jesus loves you so much that He would rather die than live without you, so He did.


27699b () No. 5292430

>>5291553

I'll never experience it. And I won't be where you can tell me about it.

Born twice, die once.

Born once, die twice.

It's enough, right there, to become born again.


27699b () No. 5292442

>>5291159

How did you become a Christian?


074604 () No. 5293105

>>5292430

>I’m christian goy like u guys

>but i spend half my time here defending the same jews jesus called out while spending my other half condemning Jesus’ real followers to hell.

cool story sclHOMO.

We don’t see you glowing at all!


1d0af4 () No. 5293165

>>5293105

kek.

>>5292442

Trying to gather intel on the enemy? Tell us how you became Christian.


8d02d2 () No. 5293324

>>5286478

Mr. Sinless conflicts openly with Paul.

go figure.


87e589 () No. 5293661

>>5289471

Crypto has nothing to do with the mark of the beast. It's quite possibly the opposite.

It's money set free from moneychangers, deceivers, warmongers, the usurers.

If you need more proof, leftists hate crypto, and right wingers love it.


c58bf4 () No. 5293889

Paul = Saul


b18ee6 () No. 5294296

>>5293661

Right now, yes, crypto is good but if the government creates its own crypto and that is the only way to buy and sell then every single transaction will be accounted for. The other cryptos like Bitcoin will be banned, leaving only the government controlled version which will know your every purchase.


87e589 () No. 5297004

>>5294296

>Right now, yes, crypto is good but if the government creates its own crypto and that is the only way to buy and sell then every single transaction will be accounted for. The other cryptos like Bitcoin will be banned, leaving only the government controlled version which will know your every purchase.

The only way Bitcoin could possibly be banned is if all countries banned it simultaneously.

Game theory makes this highly unlikely.

Also, Venezuela issued it's own shitcoin. Not working too well. JPM just issued a shitcoin too.

The best they'll be able to do is offer up the gold standard, which will be hard money, but not as hard as Bitcoin. This anon thinks BTC could well be part of the plan. After all, who has the most hash power? Also, the first mention of cryptocurrency came from an MIT email that said his NSA contact had OK'd his talking about it.


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